Republicans sell out once again, this time in New York!
Passage of Gay marriage in New York required Republican support...they did it again! by Mark Vogl
(conservative)
Tuesday, June 28, 2011
Once again the Republicans have proven...it doesn’t matter if they hold office.
In New York, the Republicans control the New York State Senate. They could have blocked Gay marriage. They didn't.
Once again it proves...it simply doesn't matter who you vote for...at least with respect to party.
It's a real disappointment for representative democracy. We the people don't get to make choices that matter. We the people get to participate in beauty contests. We get to pick the prettier candidate. What they believe, what they will do...well, kinda depends on the person.
The issue of Gay unions is important because it reflects our priorities. Do we believe in God and the Bible, or do we believe we know better? I maintain that the United States is in decline because of the values of our people. Gay unions are just one example of our values. Widespread illegal drug use, 50,000,000 abortions, the construction of thousands of casinos, states using lotteries to raise funds and the profanity on our air waves all are examples of the decline of our people's values over the last half century.
New York is a blue state. It's like Massachusetts, or California. The liberals run the state. It has huge budgets, and huge budget deficits. Yet, they look down their nose at the rest of us. We are not as smart as them, our values are not as good as theirs. Earlier I wrote an article that stated we should not select a blue state governor as our Republican candidate in 2012. The recent action in New York is an example of what I wrote about. Blue state Republicans are liberals who for whatever reason can't win office as a Democrat. Maybe they can't win their primaries in the Democratic Party. So they register Republican and then run. Romney is the perfect example. Governor Romney brought Obama Care to Massachusetts! State wide health care is not different from national health care. Maybe it would be more expensive, because states with more revenue would just spend more, driving up the cost everywhere. But the essential point is, health care is not a right.
The actions in New York have ramifications for the rest of us.
I predict that a Gay marriage in one of the states where it has been approved by the legislature will be used to force a court battle in the Supreme Court. I predict that we, in the Bible Belt and other states which would never adopt Gay marriage, will be forced by a Court decision to accept it.
The Civil War was about much more than slavery. It was about the complete destruction of a state's sovereignty. In this case, the case of Gay marriage, state's rights are being used to get a foothold in the United States. But once that foothold is secure, state's rights will be meaningless, and in fact become an obstacle to the spread of this social phenomenon and so the Court will once again erase the borders, and trample on the original sovereignty of the states.
With respect to the coming election the call by Sean Hannity and other "conservative" talk show hosts to accept that any Republican candidate is better than President Obama is false. We are tired of selecting the lesser of the two evils. We are tired of a slower liberal agenda. We want the right agenda. There is so much work to do. It will take a generation, or two, to rebuild America. Not just our economy, but our spiritual foundation.
What occurred in New York has one positive aspect. It demonstrates the corruption within the Republican Party and the need for a new second party. This new party needs a firm foundation on the cornerstones of American uniqueness. And this new party needs a litmus test across a wide spectrum of social, economic and political issues. The big tent has got us nothing but misery. At this point, winning rarely means anything more than losing. Americans deserve a real choice.
There are real candidates out there. Michelle Bachman, Sarah Palin, Rick Santorum are all proven leaders with established records, tested in the heat of battle. Tell the RINO's and moderates to go to the devil or the Democrats. Give Americans a choice.
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Posted By: Theophile
Date: June 28, 2011 11:50:52 AM
I submit that passing a test on constitutional intent/substance, being a requirement to be "licensed to vote", kinda like drivers license tests, have to be passed to drive, would put an end to the idiocracy. Then there would be no more easily led driving the country into a ditch, running stop signs, and letting their friends drive.
Ignorance is the problem, what was Sodom's sin? Ezekiel 16:49 Pride,(proud to be American?) Fullness of bread (childhood obesity?), Abundance of idleness(got entertainment?), and not empowering the poor and the needy (bank bailouts, free trade slave labor competition?)...Homosexuality isn't mentioned, because it is a product of these things.
Posted By: Bentree
Date: June 30, 2011 07:42:59 PM
Mark,
Crino's will always sell out. My daughter joined the young republicans in college. A dumber more self centered lot I've never seen. The only thing worse are the Marxist on the other side. there is no fight in Crino's, its go along to get along and share a piece of the power pie, thats it. The me-atarians they just expound and expound and expound. As for Ron Paul, well he tries to have drugs legalized and believe me Americans in general are not ready for that, he should know that it is not a seminal issue. Hell I agree, I'd give it away and let people be responsible for themselves, give them enough and they will take care of the problem Darwin style. Ron Paul is asking people to think, not good, you notice how the press just says, whatever you say Paul and next, Well. Beck should have talked about principals and the founders and left out the religion. If we as a Nation can't do whats right because its right, if we can't abide by a set of common sense principals/commandments because it is in our own best interest then we will not survive and the dark side will out.
75 thousand years ago Toba erupted and came pretty close to ending the species right then and there. Who do you suppose survived, I can tell you it wasn't the meek, It was the baddest of the bad and those are the dominate genes passed down. So if we can't overcome ignorance, avarice/greed and the I've got mine screw you paradigm then we will be but a footnote in history. We must learn to respect other people and their rights, mind our own business and cherish the correct principals and character above all.
Or we can continue to be mesmerized by the Anthony trial, twitter and text, suffer fools on the left, scream about being required to contribute money to our own accounts, try to figure out how to maximize our government largesse and in general blame everyone else for our own stupidity in the hopes that they will have to pay for it and above all when the government slams our heads into the corner we just sit there and take it and take it and take it, next will be the bullet in the back of our heads when they are finished with us. EOR :mad:
State wide health care is not different from national health care.
Really?
Is that your argument? You gonna stick with that? Or are you going to fall back to your usual:
The Civil War was about much more than slavery. It was about the complete destruction of a state's sovereignty.
Either the states have sovereignty or they don't, bub. If they do, then one of the things they're authorized to do that the feds aren't is state-wide health coverage.
Seriously, you need to stop flailing at things you dislike; you make ridiculous arguments.
I predict that we, in the Bible Belt and other states which would never adopt Gay marriage, will be forced by a Court decision to accept it.
And that would be bad because ...?
What other things that the USSC decided is necessary under our Constitution that you dislike have had a meaningful effect on your life?
I'm going to take a wild guess and say "none". How close am I?
The USSC declared that separate is not equal. Did sitting next to a black kid in school give you a terminal case of heebie jeebies?
The USSC declared that blacks in the back was improper. Did sitting next to a black lady on the city bus cause you to contract Arkansas Pants Rabbits?
The USSC ruled that blacks and whites can marry each other. Did that make you marry a black?
The USSC ruled that first trimester abortions cannot be stopped. Did that cause you to spontaneously abort?
The USSC has ruled that burning the American flag is permissable. Did that cause you to spontaneously combust?
I'm willing to believe you dislike one or more of the foregoing, but I'm unwilling to believe that you have been meaningfully affected by any of them. They just don't come up that often.
You're so worried about your "bible belt" ... is it in any real danger from same-sex marriage?
Really?
Do you think that your church will be required to perform same-sex marriages if the USSC rules them legal, lawful and rightful?
Really??
Churches aren't required to host interracial marriages if they don't want to. The Catholic church doesn't allow divorced people to get married in their church unless they go through the ritual Catholic annullment; no court would or could force them to. Do you see a court requiring your Baptist minister to officiate Adam and Steve's nuptuals?
Churches are not required to perform any weddings that they don't wish to perform. Divorced people ... mixed race ... mixed religion ... non-members ... non-believers ... nobody.
It will have bupkus effect on your religion. ['Bupkus' is a yiddishism used deliberately to instigate any latent antisemitism you may be hiding under there.]
Here's the way I see your problems, kiddo: you like what you like and you dislike what you dislike. So far, so good. There's absolutely nothing wrong with you so far.
But then you inject politics into the discussion and you filter everything through a vapid, poisonous ideology which attributes supra-political gravitas to every subject it touches - like some sinister King Midas. It is now not merely states right to be sovereign and independent of the feds, it is only the states right to do what you have declared proper; it is not merely a constitutional tolerance for the liberty of others, it is a direct attack on you.
