Agenda 21 infiltrates our States to Destroy America, Will Americans Fight Back?
Agenda 21 has had a 20 year head start to destroy America, to quell our freedoms to sink the American way of life; the question is will you allow anyone to Kill your FREEDOMS? They have NOW infiltrated at our State levels and our communities. by Catherine Elizabeth
Wednesday, June 22, 2011
People that desire a global order treat anyone that disagrees with them as conspirators; they put out whatever they think the American people will buy, the new buzz word or the new phrase or the old line; we just want to save the earth, all in the guise its good for who?...not you! A global mentality that only benefits the very few elites of the world, you will be forced to live by international law, the socialized youth will fall inline or be reeducated sound familiar.
Will history repeats itself?
I believe all Americans care for our planet; and we would all like to see future generations take care of our planet, too. But not by fundamentally transforming Americans to live like a third world county; don't believe me then read their words, do the research and you too will say America has had enough.
The only thing is it is all in the guise of helping earth by making you expendable, your way of life and not only you but everything that makes us free.
They view America as a threat, and so they should; for we will never live the way you demand we are free... join a group to combat, yes combat this entity that seeks to destroy the American way of life; for we Americans are the only real hold up in their new world order, so lets boot them out by the seat of their pants and say enough is enough.
They have infiltrated your communities, neighborhoods and states; find them and then show them the door with a please and thank you and never come back!!
Hey United Nations; We have the Constitution and Declaration of Independence; the key here is independence; from you or any entity or group that seeks our destruction and HEY YOU>>>>we dont want YOU!!!
President Obamas E.O. 13575 is designed to begin taking control over almost all aspects of the lives of 16% of the American people. Why didnt we notice it? Weinergate. In the middle of the Anthony Weiner scandal, as the press and most of the American people were distracted, President Obama created something called The White House Rural Council (WHRC).
Section One of 13575 states the following:
Section 1. Policy. Sixteen percent of the American population lives in rural counties. Strong, sustainable rural communities are essential to winning the future and ensuring American competitiveness in the years ahead. These communities supply our food, fiber, and energy, safeguard our natural resources, and are essential in the development of science and innovation. Though rural communities face numerous challenges, they also present enormous economic potential. The Federal Government has an important role to play in order to expand access to the capital necessary for economic growth, promote innovation, improve access to health care and education, and expand outdoor recreational activities on public lands.
Warning bells should have been sounding all across rural America when the phrase sustainable rural communities came up. As we know from researching the UN plan for Sustainable Development known as Agenda 21, these are code words for the true fundamental transformation America.
Agenda 21: Taking over any and all 'communities' near you dont be fooled or you will live and die enslaved by people that do not have your best interest at heart only their ownlisten tot eh rest of the world tell you the same thing I am
Please listen to the entire video it is a long video but very informative, and share all this information for the future generations of Americans are at stake!
We have been used and abused as Americans long enough The United Nations or any organization should never be allowed to garner this much power over a society with simple processes, propaganda they have achieved a lot look at how they have conspired against the American way of life.
"The visioning process includes: values research, how to run "facilitated" workshops and to how to use consensus building to create scenarios for area change. When public officials and NGOs (non-government organizations) use the term "visioning" it really means Agenda 21 principles are being implemented. States Susanna L. Jennings
Maryetta Ables writes that "Everyone knows what a lobbyist is, but do you know what an "Adviser" is in Washington, D.C.? No matter whom we elect, no matter the person or party, if we don't shine the light on who really is writing policy, we are in for a rude awakening."
"The acronym NGO stands for Non-Governmental Organization. While NGOs go back to the early 1900s, the phrase "non-governmental organization" came into its current use with the United Nations Organization in 1945. It is in Article 71 of Chapter 10 of the United Nations Charter. It established a consultative role for organizations which are neither governments nor member states. There is a conscious effort to replace the term NGO with a more politically-correct term -- Civil Society Organization or CSO.
Agenda 21 promoters want you to believe NGO activity is spontaneous as is involvement of CSOs. However, NGO activity is organized and meticulously coordinated by the triumvirate.
NGOs organize into coalitions. Three of the more important coalitions are:
Over the past two decades much of Agenda 21 and the rest of the Earth Summit program have been enacted piecemeal at the state and local levels, but as Smart Growth Initiatives, Resilient Cities, Regional Visioning Projects, STAR Sustainable Communities, Green Jobs, and Green Building Codes. After going through charades labeled as local visioning, community in-put, and consensus building, one community after another has found that it has enacted a local program that is virtually indistinguishable from every other local program, whether across the country or across the planet. The more important point, though, is that these initiatives that have been enacted ostensibly to save the environment, invariably destroy economic vitality, erode property rights, undermine liberty and constitutional government, impose soviet-style rule through stakeholder councils, subvert local control and usually devastate the natural environment to boot.
But desperate measures are necessary to save Mother Earth, and only a comprehensive, global plan will do, argue the alarmists. The UNs Agenda 21 is definitely comprehensive and global breathtakingly so. Agenda 21 proposes a global regime that will monitor, oversee, and strictly regulate our planets oceans, lakes, streams, rivers, aquifers, sea beds, coastlands, wetlands, forests, jungles, grasslands, farmland, deserts, tundra, and mountains. It even has a whole section on regulating and protecting the atmosphere. It proposes plans for cities, towns, suburbs, villages, and rural areas. It envisions a global scheme for healthcare, education, nutrition, agriculture, labor, production, and consumption in short, everything; there is nothing on, in, over, or under the Earth that doesnt fall within the purview of some part of Agenda 21. Copies of the 1,100-page document were hard to come by for several years after its debut at Rio, but I was able to bring back a media copy of the five-pound treasure from the summit. It is now available online
The most accessible version of Agenda 21 to come out following the Rio summit was published under the title AGENDA 21: The Earth Summit Strategy to Save Our Planet (Earthpress, 1993). Edited by environmental-activist attorney Daniel Sitarz and enthusiastically endorsed by Earth Summit chief Maurice Strong and then-U.S. Sen. Paul Simon (D-Ill.), the book is instructive for demonstrating the completely alien mindset that holds sway in so many influential political, academic, and media circles. Sitarzs edition provides a powerful, albeit unintended, indictment of the UN agreement by offering this candid appraisal of the plans totalitarian ambition. Incredibly, Sitarz admits with apparent approval that:
AGENDA 21 proposes an array of actions which are intended to be implemented by every person on Earth.... It calls for specific changes in the activities of all people....
Effective execution of AGENDA 21 will require a profound reorientation of all human society, unlike anything the world has ever experienced a major shift in the priorities of both governments and individuals and an unprecedented redeployment of human and financial resources. This shift will demand that a concern for the environmental consequences of every human action be integrated into individual and collective decision-making at every level.
The admission is so staggering as to require recapitulation: profound reorientation, all human society, every person on Earth, every human action, every level, demand, require. In short, it is an undisguised call for the total regimentation of all life on the planet.
Nevertheless, editor Sitarz continued his praise for the wondrous text, noting:
There are specific actions which are intended to be undertaken by multinational corporations and entrepreneurs, by financial institutions and individual investors, by high-tech companies and indigenous people, by workers and labor unions, by farmers and consumers, by students and schools, by governments and legislators, by scientists, by women, by children in short, by every person on Earth.
The tyrannical implications are so stunningly transparent that it seems impossible that any nation not overtly communist could endorse it. Yet it was unanimously endorsed by every nation at the summit, including the United States. Not even Stalin, Hitler, or Mao came close to proposing anything this all-intrusive and all-encompassing.
But the hubris goes much further still. One of the most sacred totems in the UNs green theology is sustainable development. The Local Agenda 21 Planning Guide, published in 1996 by ICLEI, the International Development Research Centre (IDRC), and the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP), has been an important manual for teaching ICLEIs local acolytes and accomplices the sustainability game. It boasts a foreword from former Earth Summit chief Maurice Strong, who currently is president of the council of the UNs University for Peace. The Guide asks the rhetorical question: What is Sustainable Development? It then provides this revealing answer:
The realities of life on our planet dictate that continued economic development as we know it cannot be sustained.... Sustainable development, therefore, is a program of action for local and global economic reform a program that has yet to be fully defined.
Yes, that is correct; the program that is absolutely essential to our very existence has yet to be fully defined. It goes on:
No one fully understands how, or even if, sustainable development can be achieved; however, there is a growing consensus that it must be accomplished at the local level if it is ever to be achieved on a global basis.
There you have it; even though we dont know what it is, there is a growing consensus that it must be accomplished."
Its time to look in your neighborhoods your town, your city and your community and see where Agenda 21 or ICLEI is located and get them out your freedoms America depend on action!
Acronym and Definition. ICLEI, International Council for Local Environmental Initiatives...
ICLEI is an un-American institution as is United Nations Agenda 21they certainly are not Americanwe are in their way of fundamental transformationand I Like it!!!
I never in my lifetime while living life would believe the greedy, rich power hungry elite of this world could pull off such a coo. This reminds me of the movie. While you were sleeping Hell it sure looks like we were sleeping America at least I wasbut oh when I saw the lightthe truth is the best disinfectant and these rats need a big dose of light if we are going to stop them...
They have a 20 year head start but then what good liberal progressive world hungry dominative groups control your life from cradle to grave group doesnt?
So lets do it America; save the United States from people that only want to see us as a shadow of our former selves. Well I say no way. We are going to take you down one state at a time gather America we are going to need every last one of us to stop this treason!
A word of caution; use this as a starting point, but do not allow it to be your only knowledge of this very complex subject. To kill it you have to know the facts. Research, know your details; discover the players in your community; identify who is victimized by the policies and recruit them to your fight; and then kill Agenda 21. Thats how it must be done. The information below is only reference to so much more. Now go get them>>>>Happy hunting.
What is Sustainable Development?
According to its authors, the objective of sustainable development is to integrate economic, social and environmental policies in order to achieve reduced consumption, social equity, and the preservation and restoration of biodiversity. Sustainablists insist that every societal decision be based on environmental impact, focusing on three components; global land use, global education, and global population control and reduction.
Yes again we see where elites and the more rich and powerful think the United States is the obstacledamn right we arefor we will always live freeyou will not now or ever demand we live under global land, YOUR LAND RIGHT? global education and global population controlyou just cant stand anyone else living and eating what you think belongs to you greedy power hungry evil people.yeah I am sick of being nice and I am calling it like I see it...if the shoe fits
Social Equity (Social Justice)
Social justice is described as the right and opportunity of all people to benefit equally from the resources afforded us by society and the environment. Redistribution of wealth. Private property is a social injustice since not everyone can build wealth from it. National sovereignty is a social injustice. Universal health care is a social justice. All part of Agenda 21 policy.
Public Private Partnerships (PPP). Special dealings between government and certain, chosen corporations which get tax breaks, grants and the governments power of Eminent Domain to implement sustainable policy. Government-sanctioned monopolies.
Local Sustainable Development policies
Smart Growth, Wildlands Project, Resilient Cities, Regional Visioning Projects, STAR Sustainable Communities, Green jobs, Green Building Codes, Going Green, Alternative Energy, Local Visioning, facilitators, regional planning, historic preservation, conservation easements, development rights, sustainable farming, comprehensive planning, growth management, consensus.
Who is behind it?
ICLEI Local Governments for Sustainability (formally, International Council for Local Environmental Initiatives). Communities pay ICLEI dues to provide local community plans, software, training, etc. Addition groups include American Planning Council, The Renaissance Planning Group, International City/ County Management Group, aided by US Mayors Conference, National Governors Association, and National League of Cities, National Association of County Administrators and many more private organizations and official government agencies. Foundation and government grants drive the process.
Where did it originate?
The term Sustainable Development was first introduced to the world in the pages a 1987 report (Our Common Future) produced by the United Nations World Commission on Environmental and Development, authored by Gro Harlem Brundtland, VP of the World Socialist Party. The term was first offered as official UN policy in 1992, in a document called UN Sustainable Development Agenda 21, issued at the UNs Earth Summit, today referred to simply as Agenda 21.
What gives Agenda 21 Ruling Authority?
More than 178 nations adopted Agenda 21 as official policy during a signing ceremony at the Earth Summit. US president George H.W. Bush signed the document for the US. In signing, each nation pledge to adopt the goals of Agenda 21. In 1995, President Bill Clinton, in compliance with Agenda 21, signed Executive Order #12858 to create the Presidents Council on Sustainable Development in order to harmonize US environmental policy with UN directives as outlined in Agenda 21. The EO directed all agencies of the Federal Government to work with state and local community governments in a joint effort reinvent government using the guidelines outlined in Agenda 21. As a result, with the assistance of groups like ICLEI, Sustainable Development is now emerging as government policy in every town, county and state in the nation.
Not for long so nice to have you drop by but time for you to go to hell, please and thank you!!
Revealing Quotes from the Planners
Agenda 21 proposes an array of actions which are intended to be implemented by EVERY person on Earthit calls for specific changes in the activities of ALL people Effective execution of Agenda 21 will REQUIRE a profound reorientation of ALL humans, unlike anything the world has ever experienced
- Thats what you think>>>> reorient yourselfagenda 21 wants you to do as you are toldor else!
Urgent to implement but we dont know what it is!
The realities of life on our planet dictate that continued economic development as we know it cannot be sustainedSustainable development, therefore is a program of action for local and global economic reform a program that has yet to be fully defined.
No one fully understands how or even, if, sustainable development can be achieved; however, there is growing consensus that it must be accomplished at the local level if it is ever to be achieved on a global basis.
Landcannot be treated as an ordinary asset, controlled by individuals and subject to the pressures and inefficiencies of the market. Private land ownership is also a principle instrument of accumulation and concentration of wealth, therefore contributes to social justice.
- From the report from the 1976 UNs Habitat I Conference.
Private land use decisions are often driven by strong economic incentives that result in several ecological and aesthetic consequencesThe key to overcoming it is through public policy
- Report from the Presidents Council on Sustainable Development, page 112.
Current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class involving high meat intake, use of fossil fuels, appliances, home and work air conditioning, and suburban housing are not sustainable.
- Maurice Strong, Secretary General of the UNs Earth Summit, 1992.
Maurice Strong wants a global order if you dont believe me; but if you dont then look him up...please and thank you!!
Well you go live with like mined people here in America Jack we live and own property there is no social justice and redistribution of wealth ideology you hold Thanks but no thanks We the People dont want our freedoms taken away to then be stripped as human beings and put to work by and ideology that knows besthate to tell you but you dont know Jack!!!
We have equal laws we live by in the United Statesyou hate that term United dont you liberal progressives...but we certainly are Unitedeveryone can prosper with capitalism, if you work hard desire to achieveyou can achieve the American Dream so who the hell do you think you people are telling us how to live or even if we have the right to livewe Americans are sick of the politically correct, the nice, niceI am nice person but I have had it up to here with all the worlds and the United Nations agenda, especially the evil intent of Agenda 21.
I have my own way to live and that is free in the country God gave me not man and live how I please!! No Man will ever tell me how to live from birth to death...NEVER! You forget your messing with an American and we dont take kindly or lightly to people that demand us to do anything, we answer to God not man the goodness that we all have inside whether we chose to do good or evil is our choice but I will never desire your evil...
Americans are good hearted and will help anyone at the drop of a hat but the day you think you can run over us will be your lastfor we will eradicate your social organization and drum you out of our towns, our communities, our neighborhoods and you should be ashamed all of you for thinking we would go quietlyyou forgot we were Americans and we stand together when times are tough and the only ones it going to get bad for is you ...So Agenda 21 look out here we come!!!!!! Listen to their arrogance Reinvention of Government
We need a new collaborative decision process that leads to better decisions, more rapid change, and more sensible use of human, natural and financial resources in achieving our goals.
- Report from the Presidents Council on Sustainable Development
Individual rights will have to take a back seat to the collective.
- Harvey Ruvin, Vice Chairman, ICLEI. The Wildlands Project
We must make this place an insecure and inhospitable place for Capitalists and their projects we must reclaim the roads and plowed lands, halt dam construction, tear down existing dams, free shackled rivers and return to wilderness millions of tens of millions of acres or presently settled land.
- Dave Foreman, Earth First.
Use of Human resources excuse me. Individual rights will have to take a back seat to the collective...well let me ask you how fast can you run... NOW...get the hell out of America you are not welcome and I say that very polite!
Whose GOALS are you talking about >>>you most certainly are not talking about my goals as a free American>>> all the people like you and the UN Agenda 21; ICLEI and anyone that wants social justice; go live in a country that already has it and let me know how that works out for you; but please get out of America we dont need you to control our people and eny us freedom!!
Funny how we will be the ones shackled then rounded up like cattle; as slaves to the elites existence, for we are no more sustainable... so many will have to die, so the elite, the more powerful, the rich will be unstained in the life style, they believe they deserve, their desires at the expense of life.iberty and the pursuit of happiness.
This is the biggest crock I have ever read, but the sad thing is this has come so far in such a short time
America Wake up before it is too late! Progressives want to tell the greatest people on the planet how to live, and most certainly they will make whom ever they deem worthy of living, how to think, what to eat, who to serve and when to die.
Hey I just want to say one more thing>>>>HELL NO!!!!!
I am tired of being polite and politcally correct...if you dont like this country move to Cuba, Russia China; go abroad and go fast and furious; for you are not welcome to spew your ideology on our children...you have your social justice...just do not think we the people are going to put up with your ideology... very much longer because frankly... WE the People... will not! We will live and be free and you will just have to MOVE the hell out if you dont like America! If you dont like what she stands for then GO>>>we the people will even supply the jet to get you the hell out so wake up progressive liberal types for you are on your way out...oh and dont let the door hit you in the AS*
What is not sustainable?
Ski runs, grazing of livestock, plowing of soil, building fences, industry, single family homes, paves and tarred roads, logging activities, dams and reservoirs, power line construction, and economic systems that fail to set proper value on the environment.
- UNs Biodiversity Assessment Report.
Oh my we arent allowed to have fun imagine thatwho could have guessed these things were so evil, skiing oh my a cow and eating in our own fenced in backyarddoes cuckoo come to mind or crazy.. I am thinking you cant make this stuff upbut apparently they have been working over time trying to make it happenwe need to nip this in the bud this year...no more Agenda 21... 2011... Your OUT!!
~Like we didnt see the hide this from the people..........surprise we did~
Hide Agenda 21's UN roots from the people...listen to his arrogant words...
Participating in a UN advocated planning process would very likely bring out many of the conspiracy- fixated groups and individuals in our society This segment of our society who fear one-world government and a UN invasion of the United States through which our individual freedom would be stripped away would actively work to defeat any elected official who joined the conspiracy by undertaking LA21. So we call our process something else, such as comprehensive planning, growth management or smart growth.
- J. Gary Lawrence, advisor to President Clintons Council on Sustainable Development.
Yeah I am a conspirator; because I want to cook a big fat juicy steak in my backyard, on a grill making carbon form as I exhale.
Listening to a little jazz; using my electricity, that I paid for that an American invented, as my family and friends enjoy my fenced in backyard, at MY home, on MY property, living FREE
Guess what United Nations and all whom are involved... you missed the Free part and the United part of Americans... living free and Independent...we do not want to be controlled, so help me God!
Surprise... we are on to you and you are on your way out...and in case I dont see you ever again...hello, goodbye and good riddance!
So we need to act and act NOW together
For America>>> we will prevail
Think Globally, Act Locally For the past several decades, environmental activists have embraced the mantra, Think globally, and act locally. And they have been implementing it with religious fervor along with bountiful assistance, of course, from the United Nations and a multitude of UN-affiliated institutions, U.S. government agencies, NGOs, and tax-exempt foundations. ICLEI, which has helped initiate UN programs in hundreds of U.S. communities, works closely with UN agencies such as UNESCO, UNEP, WHO, UNFCCC, IPCC, IMF, and the World Bank, as well as the U.S. State Department, Department of Energy, EPA, U.S. Agency for International Development, the Sierra Club, Environmental Defense Fund, World Wildlife Fund, World Economic Forum, Club of Rome, Rockefeller Foundation, the European Union, and other similar entities. It also receives millions of dollars of funding from many of these same entities, thus enabling it to organize formidable local coalitions that often can overwhelm genuine local grass-roots opposition to UN-spawned programs.
However, the correlation of forces in this ongoing struggle may be turning in favor of freedom though not a moment too soon. When this reporter returned from the Rio Earth Summit in 1992 and began a national tour with my book Global Tyranny, Step by Step The United Nations and the Emerging New World Order, far too few people were ready for the message. Even sympathetic radio talk-show hosts found it difficult to believe that the UNs treaties on climate change and biodiversity, or Agenda 21, could be as serious a threat to Americas sovereignty, prosperity, and freedom as I alleged. Few could appreciate how these documents and programs crafted in some far-off United Nations conference could ever concretely impact them in their state, town, or neighborhood. That has changed dramatically, as the huge financial costs and oppressive regimentation associated with global-warming legislation, sustainable development programs, and local Agenda 21 projects have skyrocketed.
Tom DeWeese, president of the American Policy Center and a leading expert on Agenda 21 and sustainable development, says there is definitely a major awakening underway. These UN stealth programs got by unnoticed and unopposed for many years, but no longer, he told The New American. Patriots in communities all across the country are getting wise to the UN programs and are fighting back. Many of the Tea Party activists have awakened to these issues. Our phones have been literally ringing off the hooks with requests for information and speakers to help in local battles against Agenda 21 and sustainable development. 2011 is going to be a very critical year, and Im encouraged; our side is going to make some major advances on these battlefronts.
The growing awareness of the dangers posed by UN programs such as Agenda 21, sustainable development, and the global-warming treaties, is, fortunately causing many Americans to look more critically at the United Nations itself, John F. McManus, president of The John Birch Society, told The New American. These are tentacles, but the UN is the octopus controlling the tentacles. And it is our government that is feeding the UN octopus with our tax dollars, which the UN funnels, through a myriad of fronts, into these efforts aimed at destroying our freedoms and empowering the UN as a global government. Its becoming more obvious each day that The John Birch Societys half-century campaign to Get US out of the United Nations and Get the UN out of the US is right on the mark. This should be a major effort of the new 112th Congress.
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Posted By: Bill Gee
Date: June 23, 2011 02:25:48 PM
You're not going to win any vote by screaming at people. All your "don't step on my Freedoms", "Here come the Socialists", "I'm tired of being polite" and "Hell no" talk is only convincing me that you've bought into the lies that the corporate elite use to protect their own property rights at the expense of yours.
Have you actually read Agenda 21?
You would have been much better served if instead of screaming at your audience about Communists and protecting Freedom, do a point by point rebuttal of Agenda 21.
All your really doing is making a lot of noise, full of sound and fury, but signifying nothing.
Posted By: Bentree
Date: June 24, 2011 08:38:46 AM
Pay no attention to snot nosed, green behind the ears educator types that have not the sense to understand that you have done a service. Catherine, you have provided a look at a real problem, a real time, as in happening as we speak threat to our liberty. We ignore, a word derived from ignorance, these issues at our peril. I wonder how effective Paul Revere would have been if he had left sticky notes after knocking quietly. Many lives would have been saved if the British, as Sarah pointed out, had heeded his warning to walk away.
Catherine is not talking about a theoretical academic excercise where the perceived winner receives points, this is the real deal, these are real people, real lives, real property and real liberties being usurped. What we need are more Patriots and fewer theoretical academics.
My family came here on the Mayflower, signed the Mayflower Compact, are rumored to have been a participant in a Tea Party, see "Bent Family in America" and "Bent's Fort" by Lavender also see The Clintons, the Crenshaws, their home in Richmond became The Confederate White House. Trumble did a ceiling in Washington. C.M Russell liked to paint Indians and horses. The Bents were surveyors and the first white settlers in Colorado leaving behind a national historic site. The first territorial governor of New Mexico, died in Taos in an Indian uprising. Kit Carson and Jim Bridger worked for the Bents. Oh! did I mention a signer of the Declaration of Independence, Jeffersons 1st. VP., the construction of the Erie Canal and Oliver Hazard Perry. This is the short list. They all had one thing in common and I share this commonality, they hated tyranny in any guise, especially the tyranny of ignorance. They all had an advantage we don't, they could move on and remain here at the same time. We will either stand and fight for our Liberty or we won't. That is the point. EOR
Posted By: Bill Gee
Date: June 24, 2011 09:54:55 AM
Nobody's questioning anyone's patriotism here. I've read Agenda 21 and I didn't see anything in it about private property rights being taken away. What I did see was a general understanding that governments and the people of the world should do a better job at recognizing the "Tragedy of the Commons" and to take steps to protect the collective air we breathe and the water we drink. The document also recognizes that governments should stop running up huge deficits, which is something I thought the Tea Party would support.
Large-scale industrialists and the ultra-rich would have a problem with the goals of this document. They would prefer unfettered access to do whatever they want while poisoning our environment. Therefore, they have engaged in this "faux debate" where they conjure images of Mom & Apple Pie and dark-skinned Communists in order to frighten the masses into supporting their dangerous practices.
I agree we should not simply accept something anything the UN says at face value. Therefore, I would be happy to engage in a thoughtful debate regarding Agenda 21 and then we can figure out for ourselves whether we should start rounding up the wagons.
If you want to fight the "tyranny of ignorance", you have to first figure out who is being ignorant and who is trying to manipulate you with their lies and misinterpretations.
Posted By: Bentree
Date: June 24, 2011 01:02:15 PM
So just what are the implications of dealing with the theoretical eventual tragedy of the commons and at the same time sustaining the constitutional rights concerning private property? Is it a mistake to believe that Agenda 21 could very well be a grab and control of natural resources? Including surface rights? Farm land? Grazing rights, you did know that grass was the largest crop produced even though it requires cows, sheep, horses and goats to turn it into protein. Where does it stop this protection of the commons and the common good.
You imply that others are misinformed by others perpetuating disinformation. I believe in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. What do you believe? That Agenda 21 won't lead to those very same industialist gaining control of the common assets. That is your strawman. Do you believe that communists have the best interest of their fellow man at heart? Communists do exist, honest they real do. I would except nothing from the UN period. Agenda 21's value to the left is the intrinsic power in the concept of the commons. Words have meaning, the very first thing that must happen to proceed with the Agenda is to nullify the Bill of Rights whether it be in fact or in practice, this is already a reality for many. Do you believe that the only failure of socialism/marxism/communism is that the right people were not in charge?
Posted By: Catherine
Date: June 24, 2011 01:42:50 PM
Dear Bill Gee,
Hello I hope this post finds you wonderfully well. I have never replied to a post before and probably will continue, not to reply to comments; not because I do not appreciate any voice of reason, I most certainly do, indeed. I appreciate anyone that takes the time out of their day to imbibe anyone’s words.
Although I am also certain I would not be able to persuade you even with a slice of cake, a cup of tea and good conversation to my way of thinking. For I believe you have made up your mind, and a fine mind it is. I thank you for your expression for we should all garner with a grain of salt and never be nascent about things we partake of for there should always be reason, without the sense to objurgate.
If I scream would you turn your head to find out where the scream was coming from…would you take notice? Well a little shouting now and then may just wake a few people up. When we write our thoughts we give voice to so many that are imperseverant: yet if it allows just one person to thread a voice about the concern, to talk about it just a little, well the more people converse about the subject the more will be revealed…
I tire of the politically correct, I am beyond the polite, although kindness and thoughtfulness never go out of style and I never tire of a person that speaks his or her mind; so I gift you my heartfelt thank you for being so nice as to make comment. I hope even in the smallest of measures, you too will dig a little deeper…
Posted By: Catherine
Date: June 24, 2011 02:34:20 PM
I never liked the intrusion of the United Nations. For in the real world anything man gifts to man can be taken away. What God gives us is a gift that cannot be taken away; that being freedom and free will. I believe in live and let live, equal justice for all, personal responsibility; but power and greed are quite the aphrodisiac.
But then we are so politically correct today, pounced upon for our beliefs that we are becoming obsolete as people. It only stops when they achieve the goal of the earths dominion over all, by man, with no spiritual intrusions. God gave man dominion over the world. Only with this reversal will there be ultimate control, mans control.
Ambitious are they not? For they desire a world order that can be achieved through global governance. I believe there is nothing more prevalent for the progressives then to make the Bill of Rights, Our Declaration of Independence and Our Constitution irrelevant, for each and everyday Congress is being made more irrelevant.
To have your eyes open to a bigger picture, to think outside the box is good. For whether anyone admits it or not we are living in dangerous times. Today as with prior presidencies this is not a democrat or republican ideology it crosses all party lines.
This is a progressive view for with the expansion of executive powers, there is a tipping point to liberty and I feel we are today, at this cross road; if congress can be circumvented in every aspect, like the Times so boldly displayed on the front page of their magazine.
The Constitution does it really Matter?
If you ask me. YES it does and always will; for it is a charter of negative liberties to ensure our liberties are never trampled upon, we have been asleep for so very long; generations, even mine did not see the threat. Let us just hope it is not too late. I ramble so forgive my lengthy comment. This is why I do not reply to comments.
Posted By: Bentree
Date: June 24, 2011 04:32:40 PM
I for one appreciate the hard work that you put into your article. It seems today that many don't understand or acknowledge the erosion of our freedoms. I have told the story of a friend of my mothers, a very intelligent attorney, original suffragette she had been the first woman D.A. in Cleveland. I overheard her make the comment that individual rights are superceded by the rights of the majority. I was 15 and astounded, she was 80 and from the point of view of the Founders documents she was wrong as hell and I told her so. Which was a mistake because at her age she sure wasn't going to change. That was the day that I learned that Jessie was a card carring communist. Now you don't have to be a communist to believe in the collective, group salvation and social justice, but what the hell it may be time to consumate the deal for those of you already carring their water. Sorry about that Catherine.