Obama's proclamation that America is NOT a Christian nation needs to be rebutted at the polls, including in the GOP primaries! by Mark Vogl
(conservative)
Monday, June 20, 2011
President Obama's denial of the Christian foundation and nature of the United States of America is the most telling aspect of his Presidency, and if unchecked at the ballot box will signal a real shift in the culture and nature of the nation. While revisionists, some business people and academicians hate to even discuss the impact of Christianity on the US, there is no question that Christianity was present at the founding of the United States, and most of the settlement of the western world.
For the Latinos and for the Christian black community, the Democratic Party should be ver boten. The very fact that the Democrats won't even allow debate or discussion about abortion at their convention should demonstrate to Democrats who are Christian that their belief in God has no place in the party, and should be enough to drive off the Latin Catholics and Black Christians. Will it? We will have to see. One political constant in the past half century has been the blind black allegiance to the Democratic Party.
But for the Religious Right this next election should be about rallying around the Christian standard and sending a alcear message that the American public believes America is a Christian nation. One of the most important tradeoffs of globalism and diversity is the surrender of national culture and faith. While Republicans like former President Bush can go to church, much of their policies is about destroying Christianity as the moral heart of our nation.
Mitt Romney's decision to avoid a Pro Life commitment, combined with his Mormon faith should be enough for the Religious Right to move to the next candidate. Texas Governor Rick Perry's decision to host a Day of Prayer should be sufficient evidence that at least one major Republican office holder recognizes the political importance of the Christian faith. But Perry's actions could be purely political, meaning purely for his own benefit. Conversion to public Christianity, to embracing the precepts of the Bible as the moral heart of American policy should be more proven than one Day of Prayer and Fasting.
How important is our Christian foundation? American history, from the time of Columbus' arrival to the gathering of the Founding fathers to write the Constitution is full of the importance of Christian faith. In the thirteen colonies, almost all of them required belonging to a church to hold office. Each colony had its own dominant faith. None were Moslem, or Hindu, or Budist. How our priorities as a nation were established, our political foundation, the writing of the Constitution, the original making of laws all go back to our Christian - Pilgrim foundation. The Christian Life and Character of the Civil Institutions of the United States, written by Robert Morris and published in 1864, is more than 1000 pages long and traces with historical fact of the intimacy of Christianity in the founding of our nation. One stunning example is the wording of the first resolution which taxed people to build a public school. Why was the school built? The wording is clear...to teach children to read the Bible! Can't be any clearer than that.
While lawyers, some business men and academicians want to believe that people decide what is right and wrong, most people believe it is God, through the Bible which defines right and wrong. Our entire society is founded on Christian principles, despite decades of trying to remove God from our daily lives. But Obama's pronouncement should be a slap in the face to every American who attends church. Obama's comment reflects the biggest problem with the concept of cultural diversity, it removes God from the center of the national life. So this election in 2012 is about much more than whether we do Obama Care, or whether there is Cap n' Trade. This election is about the nature of our culture, about who we are. There is no room for half measures, or half commitment. The GOP candidate must be a pronounced, practicing Christian. One who is not afraid to say, yes God will sit at my table, my dinner table, and my desk.
Christians, if you read this, if you believe this is true, pass this article on. Tell you political leaders we will NOT vote for anyone who cannot stand publicly with God. If we are going to our demise as a nation, let us not be the ones to elect the man or woman who refuses to call on our Christian father for help.
In my view every other issue is secondary to the first. Because of what President Obama has said publicly, it must be reversed publicly by our next President. If not, it may never be.
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Posted By: rwilymz
Date: June 20, 2011 12:41:27 PM
First, I'm unaware the Barama made such a proclamation. Second, I've about had it with hyper-religious politicians. Being merely religious is more than enough, thankyouverymuch.
Posted By: Interested Catholic
Date: June 20, 2011 05:45:20 PM
Mark,
I really don't understand your statement that because of Romney's Mormon faith, the Religious Right should just move on. I suppose I am not really up on my RR stats, but are Mormons not allowed in that club? My impression of the litmus test for becoming a member of the RR was that one must be a social conservative, anti-abortion, support family values, etc. But what you are saying is that *ONLY* Christian conservatives (and likely only those certain Christians who fall in line) are allowed to play. Never mind that Mormon values are very closely related to Christian values and, as someone else pointed out, Romney has proclaimed his pro-life values publicly before.
I am not a Romney supporter, however, I take offense at your idea that only an "elite" group of conservatives can run the country. This leaves out a whole lot of people, even religious ones (Jews, Mormons, etc.). Is this really the America that we should fight for?
Posted By: Corey Mondello
Date: June 21, 2011 03:54:55 PM
America is not and never was a Christian nation regardless of how much the conservative Christians rewrite history in school books and in bills and resolutions they pass in congress. I cannot understand where anyone would believe this country is, was, or was intended to be a Christian nation, and I am NOT talking about Thomas Jefferson's "separation of church and state" statement, I am talking about common sense, quotes and research. I know we all can come up with quotes from the founding Fathers that exclaim that this is a Christian nation, but, by looking more closely, you will see, they may be exclaiming their belief in a "god", and righteousness, morals, etc.... I have yet to find anywhere in my reading where the founding Fathers state that the US government should be run by Christian ideology. Here are a few quotes that prove this:
"The United States of America should have a foundation free from the influence of clergy." ~ George Washington
"The number, the industry, and the morality of the Priesthood and the devotion of the people have been manifestly increased by the total separation of the Church and the State." ~ James Madison a.k.a. 'The Father of the Constitution of the United States of America
"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise." - James Madison
"Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites." ~ Thomas Jefferson
"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter." ~ Thomas Jefferson wrote, in a letter to John Adams (April 11, 1823)
"All national institutions of churches whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit. … My own mind is my own church." ~ Thomas Paine 'The Age of Reason (1794)'
“As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.”
~ Tripoli of Barbary. Art. 11. – Authored by American diplomat Joel Barlow in 1796, the following treaty was sent to the floor of the Senate, June 7, 1797, where it was read aloud in its entirety and unanimously approved. John Adams, having seen the treaty, signed it and proudly proclaimed it to the Nation.
"The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion". ~ Thomas Paine
