Topic: Bizarre
Chemtrails over the Ozarks--why ask “why”?--“Why” ask I!!!... After a decade of ongoing Chemtrails and being in the midst of an ongoing “economic (non)crisis” this issue (among many others) should be a cause of outrage for the citizens of our nation--it is past time to demand an explanation--why is our government spending our tax dollars in this manner!?! It is past due for us to demand an explanation--or is our Government no longer accountable to the constituency that elects it to office!?!by Michael
(libertarian)
Sunday, February 7, 2010
If, up until now, you've been inclined to lump "chemtrails" in with UFO's, Bigfoot and Conspiracy Theory--please take the time to read this and click on the provided link to view the photos and then, hopefully, reconsider the mystery of this factual subject...
All our life long we have seen the contrails that jet planes leave in the sky as their exhaust fumes vaporize behind them. Depending on the current atmospheric conditions, these are sometimes long and sometimes short--it has been so commonplace for so long that perhaps many of us hardly take notice of it anymore.
--these are not like some dubious photos of a UFO, the Loch Ness monster or Bigfoot to be discounted by the skeptics--these are real jets being piloted by real people in our skies overhead and our tax dollars are being spent for yet-to-be-explained reasons...)
About a decade ago a phenomena began occurring--not so phenomenal in the fact that jets were leaving a contrail behind them; jets have always done this--but phenomenal for a lack of explanation as to why several or more jets were flying in tactical unison so that the contrails that they left behind formed an intentional pattern in the sky--a grid/checkerboard pattern and/or repeated "X" patterns. Also, these newly occurring synchronized contrails were longer and thicker and remained in the skies for a long time before they dispersed; the patterns that they traced remaining in tact as they drifted slowly in the direction of the prevailing wind flow aloft. Reports began coming in of this curious thing happening from all over the nation about this time. It has been ongoing over the past ten years ever since it first began and it is still happening today--nationally and globally.
Some inquisitive early witness of this, on finding that there was no official explanation being offered for this, nicknamed the occurrences "chemtrails" instead of contrails--it is a foregone and logical conclusion that these were/are not typical contrails and that something more than just typical jet exhaust--some other unidentified compound was/is being intentionally deployed for an equally unexplained reason. Of course, without any official explanation being offered, this inevitably led the subject directly into the realm of Conspiracy Theory and, among those who dismiss this, it subsequently, inevitably, led to it being regarded as being included among such things as UFO's, Bigfoot and Urban Legends.
But these Chemtrails are something much more than this--millions of people have been eyewitness everywhere and every time they occur--and they have been reported frequently and commonly all over the globe for a decade now and they are still, presently, occurring and still, yet, to be adequately and officially explained!
Just because it is being done in the sky above our properties we seem to take no notice of or thought about it--what if something of a similar nature were being done underground, beneath our properties, but yet left, to us, unexplained? I think we'd view it differently in such a case--I think we'd begin to view it in the manner that we ought to be viewing these Chemtrails in our skies overhead now!
My first experience with Chemtrails occurred about ten years ago. I had been at work all day. I worked a twelve hour shift at a factory sixty miles away so you can well imagine that I left for work well before the sun rose and got back home well after it had set. When I got home that evening my wife told me about the oddest thing happening in the skies overhead that day (she had been outdoors all day gardening and doing yard work). She said that there had been two jets in the sky, flying in tandem, and that they had gone back and forth, East and West and North and South repeatedly until their contrails had made a perfect checkerboard in the sky--??? I had no explanation to offer.
That same night as I was driving into town to the book store where our online computer was located at the time I tuned into the Jeff Rense radio talk show on the way there and guess what that night's subject of discussion was? Chemtrails! I called in and reported the incident that my wife had witnessed that day. (Go to www.rense.com to find an excellant Chemtrail archive).
Since then, unconfirmed speculation has offered a few plausible explanations. Weather control experiments; an experimental method for the mass deployment of biological weapons; an experimental method for the mass deployment of antidotes, antibiotics or antitoxins in the event of a biological attack in order to neutralize it. It would seem that it could be any or perhaps all of the above in a multifunctional combination.
And please don't scoff at the idea of weather control. Recent semi-mainstream media and even mainstream media has (briefly) reported of Russia's and Beijing's intentions to try to improve their climates for this winter using "weather control" technology--good luck with that!
I first heard of it in the 1970's and it has been a part of some of the language in international treaties, accords and peace agreements ever since, i.e. in that it would not be used by the signators as an offensive weapon against each other. In this it would seem that Chemtrails would be useful in providing a physical, visible monitoring device for weather control experiments--which are actually carried out by the broadcasting of ELF or ULF (extremely low frequency/ultra low frequency) sound waves used to block and/or push, and thereby guide, weather patterns.
Every day of the entire week prior to Jan. 25, 2009 saw heavy Chemtrail activity over the Arkansas Ozarks last year. We subsequently experienced one of the worst ice storms ever known! This same storm tracked through Tennessee and Kentucky with like disastrous results. In our area huge, aged trees were affected--trees that were 75 + years of age were broken down and fallen; for they had not seen the likes of this weather since they had germinated from their seeds--we were without electricity for three weeks before the power transmission lines could be repaired! Transportation was impossible over the heavily ice-glazed roadways!
This was perhaps a demonstration/experiment of how weather control could be deployed as a tactical, offensive weapon to cripple a targeted area. All I have to announce concerning this is, "Easier it is for me to bear their ice from the sky upon me than it will be for them to bear God's fire from the heavens upon them!!!"
The big snow event that hit us last week was preceded by Chemtrailing too. The unusual thing about this weather system was to be seen in the way that it moved in from the West and then directly due East along the I-40 corridor for almost 2,000 miles! Highly unusual in the way that it did not take the usual sweep along a radius to the typical Northeasterly direction--pulling up (North) as it headed East--this it decidedly did not do
The day that I took the photos, Jan. 31, 2010, started out as a beautiful day here in the Arkansas Ozarks--perfectly clear, bright and sunny. The afternoon was calm, warm and sunny. My grandchildren were playing comfortably in the big snow that had recently fallen. As the Chemtrails were being laid out over a course of quite a few hours and as they gradually dispersed, the blue sky became veiled behind a dingy layer of thin, grim, gray (with a yellowish hue) almost oily-looking "clouds"(?)--and I have in my possession excellant photographic proof of it--and I would present it within the text of this submission--if I knew how (not real strong in the techno-aspects of this)...
I am wondering if we here should not be anticipating yet another weather event in the near future?--considering the amount of Chemtrail attention we've just recently received...
Some believe that Chemtrailing is responsible for an equally phenomenal and equally unexplained, fairly recent health disorder that has come to be known as Morgellan's Disease...
But these Chemtrails are something much, much more than just an unexplained occurrence. They are a barometer reading of the current state of our Union. And it indicates a number of things about us as a nation and as a people...
It is an indication of the lack of observation among those who haven't even bothered to look up long enough to even notice them and yet, it is an even worse indication of the apathy of those who have noticed them--perhaps wondered about them for a brief moment--and then dismissed them and the Conspiracy Theory allegations along with them in the naive/ignorant point of view that our Government wouldn't do anything that would be harmful to us and that Big Brother is even still taking care of and seeing to our continued wellbeing
And even worse is the indication that it gives about the ongoing, deepening and major disconnect between the Government and the governed--evidently our Government (i.e. the individuals of which it is comprised) thinks itself no longer accountable to the constituency that voted them into their office and likewise about the apathetic, complacent, sleeping citizens/constituency who can no longer rouse themselves and wake up long enough to rally a loud majority to demand said accountability, for they are no longer responsible enough or ambitious enough to do so!
After a decade, this Chemtrailing should cause an outrage among the citizenry! We should demand a reason and an explanation for the ongoing millions of dollars of our tax money that are continually being spent so that these jets can fly back and forth and to and fro across our skies and for what good reason?!? I would say then, that it is for a reason that the general public would not approve of--no-brainer--especially given the fact that the mainstream media has kept such a lid on it and failed totally to report on the ongoing curiosity/suspiciousness of it...
And it is also an indication of a much more frightening thing--Elitism. Elitism has, historically, always led to tyranny. So please give up the notion here and now that our nation is still governed as a Constitutional Democracy--dry rot within its core has left only the remains of a thin and weakening and fast-fading facade of a Constitutional Democracy--call it a Hegemony; call it an Oligarchy; call it a Fascist state; Socialist state; Marxist state; or some strange blend of all of these combined which now inhabits the exterior facade of a Constitutional Democracy that we once had--but we have no truthful right to continue to call it a Constitutional Democracy any longer--for does it still reflect/fulfill the will of "We the People" in the majority?--it is still allowed to be called such only so as not to alarm the general public to the fact that it, in truth, no longer exists--and so that the general public subsequently does not rally up all together to punish the elected officials for their treachery and treason for failing to uphold it--indeed, rather, they, surreptitiously and subversively, endeavoring to undermine it for a long while now--the Constitution that they swore an oath to uphold and to protect prior to their officially taking up the office to which they were elected and/or appointed to via the public election! Their hypocritical actions have reduced the intent of our Constitution to a laughing-stock of ridicule in their eyes and in the eyes of the other nations of the world.
So currently we find ourselves in the depths of this "economic (non)crisis"--still, millions are being spent on an ongoing Chemtrail program--how much does it cost to fly these jets; maintain these jets--not to mention the cost of the equipment needed to disperse and the cost of the substances that they are almost continually spewing into our skies--but in such darn nifty patterns (they're good, aren't they?)...
Need to trim the budget deficit?--start with the cost of Chemtrailing or else justify to us its necessity!
Now Chemtrails are just one part of many, many things that are likewise in desperate need of being questioned--but I feel the time is long past due that we, the people, should demand an explanation--as a part of this endeavor I am writing this article and submitting it to everyone and everywhere that I possibly can in the hope that the recipients will also forward them to even more persons and places and that the impetus for an inquiry can be initiated--let's all begin to demand some answers concerning this issue!!!
--these are not like some dubious photos of a UFO, the Loch Ness monster or Bigfoot to be discounted by the skeptics--these are real jets being piloted by real people in our skies overhead and our tax dollars are being spent for yet-to-be-explained reasons...)
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Posted By: Walt Thiessen
Date: 2010-02-07 06:25:37
"Need to trim the budget deficit?--start with the cost of Chemtrailing or else justify to us its necessity!"
The cost of chemtrailing? You mean there's a line item for chemtrailing in the federal budget? Can you cite a reputable source for this claim? I didn't think so!
I'm not sure which is more bizarre...the fact that you're focusing on chemtrails (which is nothing more than sheer speculation backed by nothing but fear-mongering) or the fact that you claim the financial crisis is a non-crisis. I suppose the 10% official (18% unofficial) unemployment numbers are also a figment of peoples' imaginations? Or perhaps you're referring to claims by the administration and the media that we're climbing out of the financial morass? If so, you need to recharacterize your criticism, because to the best of my knowledge none of those people claim that there is no economic crisis.
I love it when people who have done no research on their own come back with things like "(which is nothing more than sheer speculation backed by nothing but fear-mongering)"
Oh please, where have you been Walt? Black budget projects are listed as toilet seats. Line item, give me a break.
After spending over 10 years on this subject I can only say my imagination could never produce the things I have learned and observed while investigating this issue. Here Walt, why don't you start with a little light reading and begin to catch up?
http://www.seektress.com/patlist.htm
Here too, this page will really catch you up, just start at the bottom with the program aired July 13, 2000 and work your way up.
http://www.carnicominstitute.org/carnren.htm
THEN come back and respond to Michael's article, because you will then be more qualified to express an informed opinion. You will be able to recharacterize your criticism, You won't come off as an uninformed, delusional sheeple because you'll know a little about what you're trying to talk about. Thanks.
Nice article, Chem trails are just another puzzle piece to the BIG PICTURE !!! I used think like most people that UFO\\\'s were just someones over active imagination, But since the early 80\\\'s I have known they are REAL!! something happened to change my mind!! with this newfound knowledge, I began to Question why would our Government would LIE? and if they would lie about that then what else would they be lying about? So I started looking into some of these conspiricies! And what I found by putting all the Pieces to together paints a Bad Picture!! The real reason for not dislclosing the truth about UFO\\\"s is the Technologies!! The truth is This:
THIS IS A CREATED SYSTEM THAT WE LIVE IN !! We have been reduced to nothing more than a TAX SLAVE! This has been done by Suppressing any energy tecnnology that woud be untaxable, LIKE OVER-UNITY, FUEL CELL, and any number of other devices that they have suppressed, and THIS IS BEING DONE UNDER THE NAME OF NATIONAL SECURITY!!!! Now here is the big picture!!
THE ENTIRE ENERGY SECTOR IS NOTHING BUT A SCAM PLAYED OUT ON THE ENTIRE WORLD!!!! Please prove me wrong anyone!!! Have a good day....
you blame the elected officials for the chemtrail problem. It's not them dude! I have been following this phenomenon for years and know some things about it. Chemtrails and other secret "black" projects that gobble up our money, come from non-elected people. The only thing our politicians have to do with it is they provide the money. Our congress approves billions of dollars annually for these black opps programs of which they are told nothing. They are forced to do so because otherwise they will be forced out of office by these powerful people. You should check out some of the chemtrail web sites that have been around for a while, you can learn a great deal from them, including what the chemtrail program is actually for. The reasons you suggested for the program are all wrong, it's more diabolical than that, but I'm not going to get into that here. Do some more investigating man and find out who we're up against and why nothing has been done about it. You'll find that chemtrails are just the tip of the iceberg, that there are many secret black programs that are doing us harm. So maybe what we really need to be doing is demanding congress stop funding them and reveal who they are.
Posted By: terry the censor
Date: 2010-02-07 22:17:38
the only argument for chemtrails is the same as every other kook theory:
1) events happen that I don't understand or don't approve;
2) I therefore infer that someone is keeping a secret from me or is plotting against me;
3) that can't be good;
4) the secret-keeping group would need vast secret resources to make these events happen;
5) I therefore conclude that mundane events prove a vast, hostile plot exists;
6) and, necessarily, anyone who disagrees is a fool or part of the conspiracy;
7) thank God my homeopath is on my side or I'd be dead already!
Michael, you express well the horror that so many of us feel on a daily basis as these military planes cake the atmosphere with barium, aluminum and other compounds. Rosalyn Peterson at www.californiaskywatch.org is a good person to contact. She worked for CA Department of Agriculture for years and has a no nonsense approach, very valuable. Keep speaking to people about this egregious Tuskeegee-like experiment on we citizens of the earth. This program must be stopped, and immediately.
I, too, first identified "lingering contrails" independent of any propaganda or suggestion of their existence.
I had never heard the term "chemtrail" and in fact had never even been online (very late adopter) and was completely unaware of this concept or "theory" when I first noticed the heavy, lingering jet trails near Portland, OR in the late nineties. They initially appeared mainly during major family holidays, so I wrote them off as increased air traffic at that time. Still, after 40 years of skywatching and having seen thousands of jets passing overhead leaving barely discernible trails which disappeared in mere seconds, it would be yet a few more years before I would learn that scores of others had observed the same "change" in the appearance and persistence of "contrails", and most are still as incredulous as I am that so many "deniers" still exist, especially among those born prior to 1980 who were past the "age of reason" when these changes began.
I challenge anyone to find an example of a heavy lingering contrail in any movie, or television show prior to 1990. The only movie I am aware of is the Patrick Swayze movie "Red Dawn" where there are clips of military "chaff" cut into the movie. To my knowledge, chaff is not used over civilian populations, yet there are recent clips of TV meteorologists who seem to know more about militiary created "clouds" than even the military claims to know.
Today it is hard to find a movie with outdoor footage which does not show them. Movie production companies have difficulty finding skies clear enough to shoot video portraying historical periods before chemtrails (yes, I said it) ruled the skies.
I don't need chemical assays of water showing dramatic increases of barium and aluminum in areas of heavy spraying, or the knowledge that barium is one of the most highly electrically reactive elements in the presence of sunlight. I didn't need to read U.$. patents for dispersal of powdered metal into the atmosphere by addition to jet fuel and dispersion via jet exhaust. I didn't need to learn about HAARP or government weather control which is roundly denied but has been going on for decades. I don't need to dig very deep into the history of the NOAA or NASA to see how many layers of lies have been fabricated.
I don't need further reason to suspect and disbelieve a bureaucratic institution which has been caught using harmful biological agents on it's own people and repeatedly lying about it.
All I need to do is to look up and trust my own empirical observation. For those who no longer follow the sheepleherders, it is not a question of whether there is something going on over our heads (and under our noses). It is now a question of "What?".
Here are dozens of video clips I shot from SE Portland revealing the murky aerosol soup they were saturating us with a couple of years ago:
http://www.stickam.com/pdxskycam
Remember, the shepherd never sharpens his axe in front of the sheep.
Thanks for keepin' it real and keep looking up!
"The path to the truth is found in the spaces between the lies." ~Rainbojangles
Michael, you express well the horror that so many of us feel on a daily basis as these military planes cake the atmosphere with barium, aluminum and other compounds. Rosalyn Peterson at www.californiaskywatch.org is a good person to contact. She worked for CA Department of Agriculture for years and has a no nonsense approach, very valuable. Keep speaking to people about this egregious Tuskeegee-like experiment on we citizens of the earth. This program must be stopped, and immediately.
I would like to suggest that one of the uses of chemtrails is to spread genetically engineered bacteria which are replacements for our commensal microbiota (these are the prokaryotic bacterial constituents of our bodies which outnumber our eukaryotic animal cells 10 to 1). Further, I would suggest that the new bacteria being spread are invasive, interfere with our digestion, our biorythms, and our ability to dream (which is crucial to our ability to survive). The surprising source of these desires is rather confusing once understood, and will be found, eventually, to be unknowingly engaged in suicidal (and omnicidal) behavior.
If these chemtrails're an authentic phenomenon - i.e., something in addition to the 'normal' incidental trails aircraft normally leave behind them - then, by definition, they must be depositing something, in which case it should be possible, within a few hours of the trails appearing, to detect traces of whatever's being added at ground level because, afterall, the ground's where the people to be affected live.
If no such traces can be detected, then maybe the whole thing's some kind of psy-op intended to promote paranoia - on both sides of the fence.
To paraphrase terry the censor:
the only reason people claim there's no such things as chemtrails/UFOs/Bigfoot/ghosts/whatever is the same as they dismiss every other 'kook theory': 1) events happen that conventional mindsets don't understand or/and don't approve; 2) they therefore infer since no one could possibly keep a secret from them, plot against them, know something they don't know, or experience something they haven't experienced, this justifies such classic arguments as, "You can't possibly've been visited by intelligent extraterrestrials because if they were intelligent they'd've visited me instead of you!", proving, therefore, anyone who says otherwise is a liar, self-deluded, or insane; 3) governments and business corporations've never done anything bad, therefore anyone suspicious of them is an automatic indication of nutcaseness ; 4) there's never been any kind of secret-keeping groups, so they don't need vast secret resources to make imaginary events happen, proving the Manhattan Project was just an urban myth ; 5) therefore mundane events prove that vast, hostile plots which, by definition, are not mundane, are not possible; 6) and, necessarily, anyone who disagrees is a fool or part of the conspiracy to promote delusion and paranoia; 7) thank God my homeopath is on my side or I'd be dead already!
Exactly - what alanborky said. This whole chemtrail thing is pretty out there as conspiracy theories go. Can anyone who believes this stuff point to any solid scientific findings that these trails are made up of anything other than water vapor? Until a definitive report is presented that states as such, I see no reason to believe anything else based on any so-called "evidence" you've presented here.
I too have been aware of chemtrails for a long time. I have approached many different entities and agencies both government and private about this, and a standard reply from either is in regard to the altitude of the plane and the temperature at the altitude and that is why chemtrails appear. I know better. I also know that as a society we are more conditioned, manipulated and controlled then our very own worst nightmares would allow us to consider. We are never encouraged to look to the sky unless a specific astrological event is due to occur. As a matter of fact, get caught staring at the sky in the daytime hours and risk accusal of being a "daydreamer" or the equally negative "your heads in the clouds". The more outspoken ones interest in any so called anomally, the more "suspect" they are thought to be. Go figure. Personally, for several decades I have suspected that the purpose in part of the chemtrails is as a delivery mechanism for the state of apathy to the population. Apathy, it's a serious, infectious and contagious disease that appears to be the root of too many problems in our lives today.
Posted By: terry the censor
Date: 2010-02-09 23:47:23
JS epitomises 95% of conspiracists: facts don't matter -- I already know the truth!
Chemtrails should be easy to test without appealing to the ominous "entities" and their black ops budgets.
Couldn't a high school chemistry class, or perhaps a university chemistry club, or even an environmental group test air, soil and plant samples? Wouldn't clinicians report huge numbers of people getting baritosis, for instance?
If chemtrails were real, wouldn't kooks and non-kooks find the same evidence, suffer the same effects?
terry the censor appears to epitomize apathy and ignorance. Apathy in not researching and learning details and information and ignorance in offering offensive and dismissive remarks with lack of knowledge to begin with. The fact that my comment \\\"I know better\\\", equates for terry to, \\\"I already know the truth\\\" further demenonstrates this. Oh well. I live on the west slope of the Sierra Nevada Mountains in California. It was in the early 90\\\'s that I first began observing a different, and to me startling sight in the early morning skies; planes were leaving trails of exhaust in densness and design as I\\\'d never before seen, and they didn\\\'t disappear. The sunrise to a clear, crisp, blue sky day, as I\\\'d experienced for decades, was now regularly being filled with this kind of plane exhaust that would spread out to create a completely overcast sky by mid-day. I found this regular occurrence alarming. It is not a conspiracy theory that this is a real and ongoing occurrence all over the globe. It is not a conspiracy theory that I as a citizen, was refused information (beyond the \\\"altitude\\\" explanation) by any and all official sources. Black Project Funding?!?!?!? The possible knowledge, truth, and information regarding all kind of technology as well as anything considered \\\"anomalous\\\" is openly withheld from we the citizens \\\"for our own good\\\". All that is funded by Black Project Funding is completely self contained, self regulated and with no oversight, responsibility or accountability due anyone. For our own good we comply with this, of course. It\\\'s a sad state of affairs. WE NEED A WAKE UP CALL! HELLOOOOOOOO
"terry the censor"--have you been sold this bill of goods (bad enough)--or have you bought into it (worse)!?!
I can accept that not all have witnessed a Chemtral anomoly--but those who have cannot deny it--RainBojangles "empircal observation"...
...what the heck are they doing with our tax dollars and why!?!
...and as Organelle hinted; it has to do with Elitism and a both active/passive population reduction scenario--the paradigm for the common man to be concerned with for the near future...
...of course, well rehearsed and professional "debunkers" will steer us away from the Truth...
...but in reality a very (ultimately) powerful and exclusive Elite has determined that the population of our planet needs to be drastically reduced...
...if they feel so sincere and genuine in this belief I can only say, "Let them to volunteer to go first."--I would do so if I so sincerely and genuinely believed in this necessity (but such is not case)...
Chemtrails are sort of the "poster child" of their nefarious designs--since they are and have been flaunted flagarently and continuously before our very eyes for over a decade now...
The governments of the world promote GMO foods for the very same reason=consumption results in reduced reproductive capacity...
"Scientific" and pharmaceutical revisions and controls recommend reduced vitamin intake(s) for the same purpose...
Enter "nutricide"=population reduction via malnutrition and the shortcomings of the Codex Alimentarious--overly convenient in that malnutrition is not contagious and the introduction of disease is non-discrimentory in who it infects...
...let's get real about what's going on out there...
If the 'elite' wanted population reduction, and did it by spraying everyone, would that not also infect themselves?
But of course, a true believer will get on here and say they would not do this or GMO foods without first having the antidote. This antidote being the way to riches in 20 years when everyone gets sick, then they bring it to market.
Hey I'm pretty good a making up stuff, maybe I should write fiction, except I am pretty sure a few have used this theme already, some before the chemtrail seers saw what they see.
Michael, get real. You believe this frack, go to the airport and get evidence. Then create a scene that draws attention to that evidence, so much so that even msnbc could not ignore the story.
According to you they are killing us, so please get out and save us.
I have a confession. Every time I read comments by a "blanket" chemtrail denier, I always assume they are under 25 years old or were playing Super Mario when chemtrails first appeared in the 90s, or that they are simply not very observant.
I grimace when I read one of these folks use the term "believers" to lump all skywatchers into some kind of cultish marginalized fringe group. It is not necesssary to "believe" what one can see.
Theories as to the purpose(s) of the aerosols abound, and are probably as numerous as the actual purposes and potential applications. I have read the U.$. patents for metallic powder distribution via jet exhaust for climate modification. Does that mean it is happening? Who knows? If it is you can be sure of one thing, we WON'T be told about it until it has been in use for some time. If ever.
Do you think the people of Afghanistan or Iraq were told that their countries were going to be littered with radioactive debris from depleted uranium shells?
Governments lie. They have always lied and will always lie as long as they have something to hide, which means they will always lie.
No deception of significance will be voluntarily revealed, as this opens the door to litigation so the lies must be perpetuated until the victims are nearly all dead. The truth of secret government actions usually take just about 40 years to surface, by then there are few witnesses left, except for Henry Kissinger. He got away with murder, and is responsible for untold human death and misery.
Posted By: terry the censor
Date: 2010-02-17 18:30:36
JS wrote: Apathy in not researching and learning details and information
And your information is...you saw something in the sky, therefore they contain deadly chemicals, therefore there's a massive conspiracy? Read my steps 1-5 again, because it was an accurate prediction of what you ended up saying in your deranged response. (Yes, "deranged." That is not a dismissive remark, it is a descriptive one.)
Michael wrote: in reality a very (ultimately) powerful and exclusive Elite has determined that the population of our planet needs to be drastically reduced...
It's true that some elites have been worried about overpopulation for many decades. And it's true that China's enforcement of their one-child policy has been ghastly. So I don't blame people for keeping an eye on any talk about overpopulation. But conspiracy theorists have predicted mass depopulation for DECADES and it has never happened. That's why the MSM does not report on chemtrails and other foolishness -- talk, talk, talk from the fabulists yet their prophesying fails over and over and over again.
Their are a lot of real conspiracies out there. Seems like every couple of months a massive Ponzi scheme is exposed or some giant corporation pays a nine-figure fine for price-fixing, fraud, polluting, etc. Why don't conspiracists talk about that stuff?
People, there ARE powerful entities trying to harm regular people, this HAS been proven, and the MSM DOES report it, but you DON'T care!
Posted By: terry the censor
Date: 2010-02-17 18:45:52
[okay, I'm reposting: my formatting was terrible! Everything got run together in a jumble. I apologise. I've fiddled with NoScript -- that seems to have done the trick.]
JS wrote: "Apathy in not researching and learning details and information"
TtheC: And your information is...you saw something in the sky, therefore they contain deadly chemicals, therefore there's a massive conspiracy? Read my steps 1-5 again, because it was an accurate prediction of what you ended up saying in your deranged response. (Yes, "deranged." That is not a dismissive remark, it is a descriptive one.)
Michael wrote: "in reality a very (ultimately) powerful and exclusive Elite has determined that the population of our planet needs to be drastically reduced."
TtheC: It's true that some elites have been worried about overpopulation for many decades. And it's true that China's enforcement of their one-child policy has been ghastly. So I don't blame people for keeping an eye on any talk about overpopulation. But conspiracy theorists have predicted mass depopulation for DECADES and it has never happened.
That's why the MSM does not report on chemtrails and other foolishness -- talk, talk, talk from the fabulists yet their prophesying fails over and over and over again.
There ARE real conspiracies out there. Seems like every couple of months a massive Ponzi scheme is exposed or some giant corporation pays a nine-figure fine for price-fixing, fraud, polluting, etc. Why don't conspiracists talk about that stuff?
People, there ARE powerful entities trying to harm regular people, this HAS been proven, and the MSM DOES report it, but you DON'T care!
One thing that bothers me about Chemtrails is the fact that plumes can stay suspended in the atmosphere for so long without dispersing or falling to earth. The particles of barium and metals would have to be micronized into extremely small particles or floated like filaments. For example: drop a bowling ball from an airplane and it will hit the ground within minutes. The Chemtrail clouds fill the sky for hours at a high altitude without seeming to fall or disperse. This would seem to indicate a high technology industry required to make the Chemtrail mix that is sprayed from planes.
Go to your favorite search engine and enter \"nanoparticles health risks\" and see how readily extremely small particles can invade your body systems and accumulate there and cause harm. The health risk is not immediate, but prolonged exposure could cause problems. This could be compared to a coal miner contracting black lung disease after years of inhaling fine dust particles. A lump of coal is not at all harmful to handle, but inhaling it as a fine dust repeatedly for years will cause a health problem.
How many of your friends and family seem to have \"allergy\" symptoms every day of the year. Watery eyes, runny nose, persistant cough... Our bodies are trying to expel the Chemtrail nanoparticles in the only ways we can defend ourselves. The long term exposure to these particles (10,20,30 years) will definitely cause health problems in most of the population.
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