Topic: Separation of Church and State
Replacing God The war on God is picking up steamby Nancy Morgan
(libertarian)
Friday, April 10, 2009
While speaking in Ankara, Turkey this week, President Obama made an astonishing proclamation. He claimed, "We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation." Instead, he said, "We are a nation of citizens", essentially assigning fealty to 'the state' over fealty to God. The world listened, and nodded.
Back home in the U.S., Newsweek editor Jon Meacham welcomed The End of Christian America: "The decline and fall of the modern religious right's notion of a Christian America creates a calmer political environment and, for many believers, may help open the way for a more theologically serious religious life."
I guess its settled. God is now outdated, at least among our political and media elite. In their world view, what they sneeringly call the religious right is now merely a fringe group. America itself has evolved to a higher plane. A more progressive plane, if you will.
The overwhelming majority of Americans who profess faith in God are being told that the times have changed. Christianity, our ruling elite inform us, is only one of many religions, all of which are equal.
In case we don't get it, President Obama, while abroad, expressed a deep appreciation for the Islamic faith while, here at home, he appointed a gay-rights activist to the federal government's faith-based initiative. Said activist described Pope Benedict XVI and certain Catholic bishops as "discredited leaders." Get it?
The election of Barack Obama has ushered in a new era in the war for hearts and minds in America. Obama, representing the left, believes that man, not God, is omnipotent, thus paving the way for man (Obama) to take control of every facet of life in America. Obama and the government know best. They are now in charge.
President Obama is asking for your blind faith, the faith usually reserved for God. Without any record of achievement, he asks that you believe in him, that you follow his dictates. That you allow him to lead us from the wilderness.
What Obama is doing has been done before. Successfully. In the former Soviet Union, churches operated only with permission of the state. In China, the crackdown continues on underground churches. The 'state' knows it must have supremacy over God in order to effectively rule (subjugate) its citizens.
Pol Pot knew this. Lenin knew this. Mao Tse Tung knew this. Any dictator who conquers a country through force knows this. And Obama knows this.
In order for the state to be supreme, fealty to God, to family andto communities, must be replaced with fealty to the state. This strategy is now being implemented in America, with increasing success.
The traditional family, the backbone of our nation, is being redefined as we speak. The institution of marriage is being undermined by the creeping acceptance of gay marriage. Faith in God is being replaced with faith in Mother Earth.
Its no mistake that the Obama administration is jumping aboard the environmental bandwagon. They recognize the basic human desire to believe in a cause or ideal greater than ourselves.
By making the environment the new religion, all those higher feelings may be directed and manipulated by the state. And all that money, formerly called tithing, may now be directed towards supposed efforts by the government to 'save the planet.' In other words, God can't save the planet, only man can.
Liberalism frees man from pesky moral restraints and abolishes sin in favor of the celebration of self. Guilt may now be assuaged by advocating for environmental purity. Best of all, total redemption is available for those who care enough to become 'carbon neutral.'
In order for this to work, government has to get God out of the way. And they're doing a bang-up job. The ACLU has terrorized cities across the country with threats of lawsuits for allowing the barest hint of religion into state policy.
The secularist media portrays anything smacking of Christianity as totally beyond the pale. Newspapers, magazines and television are of one mind, depicting any show of faith in God as a fringe mentality, as unseemly as picking one's nose in public.
God is now passe, at least according to those elites who set the agenda in our country. Environmentalism is the new religion for all right thinking people. And if you don't agree, well, it doesn't matter. Obama won, haven't you heard? He has claimed a mandate, and, so far, no one is challenging it. We voted for it. We got it.
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I must've missed the memo but the Religious Right (Robertson, Fallwell, Dobson, Perkins, etc) is still a fringe element of the GOP. I see no moderation in this group, there blind support for the big government polices of Bush are one of the reasons why we are in this current mess home and abroad. Being against big government policies of a Democrat but supporting the same big government policies of a Republican isn't change it's being blind. If there is some "moderation" among the Christian Right I sure as hell would love to see the evidence.
As for the recent stories on how people are rejecting religion, so what. Religion in my opinion is authortarian, which looks at me and yells "Bad" and tells me that I have to line up to their standards in order to be a productive member of society but that doesn't change the fact that I acknowledge that God exists. To me this is a silly issue to get work up about. No matter how hard Hollywood and the media try, you cant abolish religion in this country. Ideas and beliefs don't die. There are more important issues at hand for oh lets say how Obama announced yesterday that he wishes to grant amnesty to illegal aliens. I would think that the President basically spitting on law, and on legal immigrants by giving law breakers US citizenship would be higher on the totem pole than finding out that less people go to church but of course everyone has different sets of priorities.
Faith in God, faith in govt, faith in Gaia, what's the difference? The problem is that people have faith. If they were to wise up they'd reject the whole concept of faith, realizing that it's just a way of trying to cheat reason. You either know or you don't know, don't hallucinate by having faith.
"Do not say that you’re afraid to trust your mind because you know so little. Are you safer in surrendering to mystics and discarding the little that you know? Live and act within the limit of your knowledge and keep expanding it to the limit of your life. Redeem your mind from the hockshops of authority. Accept the fact that you are not omniscient, but playing a zombie will not give you omniscience—that your mind is fallible, but becoming mindless will not make you infallible—that an error made on your own is safer than ten truths accepted on faith, because the first leaves you the means to correct it, but the second destroys your capacity to distinguish truth from error." --Ayn Rand
We have separation of church and state for a reason. Arguments to the contrary including this one are disingenuous. What you portray as a war on God is simply a war to preserve separation. It wouldn't be necessary if the religious right hadn't felt the need to push its Christian agenda into as much government as it could.
Posted By: Michael McDonnough
Date: 2009-04-14 22:35:28
Come on guys you are being pretty charitable here. This tirade is about as far from representative of Libertarian thought as Mein Kampf. This is pure religious inspired delusional religious right as you can get. For Mrs. Morgan to profess this stream of pure religious right template smear message in a Libertarian forum is beyond repugnant.
This is a smear of the physical conservatives from the social conservative far out there group. This makes no fraking sense.
I banish thee from the libertarian ranks. Be gone religious crazy of an obvious right wingnut paradigm. Real libertarians employ reason with politics not religious piety.
"This is pure religious inspired delusional religious right as you can get. For Mrs. Morgan to profess this stream of pure religious right template smear message in a Libertarian forum is beyond repugnant. "
Maligning the messenger is not a very good way of advancing intellectual debate, i.:e.: an exchange of views. Unfortunately, many on the left believe that by writing off posts like this as being written by right wing religious nuts, there is no need to actually consider or respond to the main issue. That's not debate, its merely parroting the views the of old media - with absolutely no original thinking included.
An intellectually honest debate would include an explaination as to why you consider this is 'repugnant' and 'delusional' instead of just expecting that eveyone agrees with you. (They don't)
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