Topic: Economics
There Must Be Consequences The reason so many people are able to behave in ways that are detrimental to their own future is because they have been buffered from the consequences of their actions.by Jahfre Fire Eater
(libertarian)
Thursday, November 6, 2008
My wife, Michelle Fire Eater, sets the tone for this article best with her belief in karma even if she has to distribute it herself.
I read an article recently, the reference escapes me now but the gist was that a business owner was talking about the impending impact of Obama-nomics on his ability to do business. In a time when production costs are rising, margins are shrinking, credit is tight and consumers are reticent, facing the prospect of higher taxes puts small business owners in the uncomfortable position of having to decide how to scale back costs.
Yet, despite my disbelief, I've found several local business owners who made donations to Obama. Hmm. When the consequences begin to be felt I think it is incumbent on the rest of us to make sure those businesses are the first to feel them.
In the same article, the business owner mentioned his friend who owns a substantially larger business with many employees. As they were discussing the "Obama Squeeze" that businesses must now begin planning for, he asked his friend how he would decide who to lay off. The second business owner said it is only fair that those with Obama bumper stickers on their cars be the first to suffer the consequences of their choice.
Personally I don't see much difference between a business owner who supported McCain's Socialist/Fascist policies and those who supported Obama's version of the same. However, luck was on their side because McCain lost so they can lay blame on the other half of the country...this time.
We are ramping up a grass roots effort to deny our patronage to any local business that supported Obama. Where logic and reason fail to sway voters to support policies that enable businesses to prosper, direct economic consequences may do the trick. We're not encouraging direct protest, just a lasting absence of patronage. If these Obamaphile business owners can survive on half the local population's patronage then good for them. I doubt many can. In this process, we're able to turn Obama-nomics into a force for good in distributing karma appropriately.
Political donations are public records. Go out and do your home work. Share your findings. The liberals want everyone share in the pain they cause. It is up to us to actively focus that pain on those who most deserve it.
Jahfre Fire Eater
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The economic conditions you report are BUSH's, not Obama's. Bush has trashed the US economy in his inability to see past his Texas swagger, and his repetitive appointment of incompetent leaders. He always pulls out someone who defers completely to him rather than someone with answers. Condi Rice was a disaster. Like a dog wagging her tail everytime she sees Bush, she does whatever he tells her to do. And, the revolving door at the Treasury finally got us Paulsen. Remember Gonzalez as Attorney General? How about Rumsfeld as Sec. of Defense? If they don't roll over and let GW Bush rub their stomachs first, then they don't get appointed to a position.
The man was the worst President we've ever had, and has left Obama with the worst economy any President has had to confront. Just dripping in red ink, hemorrhaging in foreign and domestic markets, poorest relationship with foreign leaders ever, a totally confused and inept Congress, a Federal Reserve that has poured money into the economy like a fire hose on a forest fire, and US troops stationed everywhere in the world.
What an ABOMINATION GW Bush has been! If Obama can fix even a FEW of these problems, he should be given SAINTHOOD!
Bush didn't have the power to ruin the economy and Obama doesn't have the power to fix it. Your "change the world" liberal drivel really gets tiring after a while. I don't know who paid your tuition but that was money flushed down the toilet. The economy will (and should) fix itself eventually as it always does without price fixing and other short sighted meddling.
The economy will "fix itself" the same way that you'll absorb some intelligence by sleeping on an encyclopedia ~ my guess is that NEITHER is going to happen.
JM Keynes was quoted as saying: "In the LONG RUN we're all dead." That's how the economy will heal itself.
Bush has bludgeoned, abused, distorted, deceived, raped, and castrated the American economy. No single American could have done more damage to it if he tried. If you think it will "fix itself", you probably also believed your daddy when he told you that masturbating in a hanky is where you came from.
A good question I think would be, "would you rather that people with less money pay more taxes?". You need to face the reality that 1. government is huge 2. taxes are very high. agreed? Now, someone has to pay the tax, there are no tax reformers in Washington, no matter what they claim. as of the last three decades, the burden has been shifting from taxing the top to severe tax on the middle and bottom. A large percentage[not all of course] of the people at the top directly benefit in some way from the corporate monopolies. These are your enemies, these monopolies, supported by big government, not someone earning seventy thousand dollars a year, who stands to pay a couple of hundred less under Obama than he would under McCain. If a small business owner is fortunate enough to CLEAR a quarter of a mill, then a few extra dollars won't kill them or their business, but it will make a big difference to a single working mom or a family of four. As I wrote in my article 'What is a Fair Tax', I don't support taxes, but we have to deal with realities, not some bull some elitist corporate PR butthead spun out. The rich have gotten richer feeding from the public trough and "spreading" a bit around will not end this imperfect world. Adam Smith even supported the top paying more, as they had "benefitted" more. Income tax is absurd to start, but taxing the middle to feed the top is hardly fair.
Posted By: Mrs. Fire Eater
Date: 2008-11-22 14:41:41
Which president is "responsible for this mess?" Hm... well, I think depending on one's leanings but relying on a high minimum of historical knowledge, the number of presidents "responsible for this mess" is somewhere between 30 and 42. (Just thinking ahead.)
Me? I think the answer is ZERO unless you include the Congress of the time in the equation. Bushie nor Clinton nor any other has accomplished their goals without the kind assistance of the Congress Things. So, I agree - to blame a single president for anything is shortsighted at least.
On another note, I do believe in karma - even if I have to distribute it myself. While it is more personally satisfying than effective on a large scale, those bucks mean a lot at the local level, and I won't cry if Obama voters have to move back to the city.
It is essentially just speeding up the inevitable and making room for business people who actually understand how business works and why. Then again, can we expect anything less from a gas station where the windshield wash and the receipt rolls are ALWAYS empty?
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