by donspoliticalblog
(libertarian)
Sunday, October 26, 2008
Being as old as I am I can remember clearly the election of 68. The youth of America were sold a bill of goods by the liberals in the Democratic party and were ready to fight and die for Eugene McCarthy. They fought in the streets of Chicago during the Democratic convention causing tremendous turmoil in the country. I can remember being stuck on a Freeway in Seattle by a peace march that was blocking traffic. The sad thing was there was an ambulance next to my car and they were trying desperately to get to Harbor view hospital with a critically injured man. Needless to say the man died in route and the crowd that was blocking traffic never even knew his name or the fact that he had a family who loved him and who needed him. The ambulance attendants said that he should have made it but when they were blocked they didn't have the things necessary to save him on board.
These kids were being taught to be anarchists from the colleges and universities they attended. I could understand their disdain for war and wanting to stop it but instead of turning the public against themselves they should have worked to get the public involved in their fight. These kids learned from their mistake in the 60's and are now the professors and teachers who are teaching the youth of today. The idea of peace at all cost is intriguing to a youngster when they are not taught the consequences of their movement. Believe me not all wars are fought for the right reasons and we learned that from the Kennedy and Johnson years. As a Country though once embroiled in a conflict it should be our duty to protect the people who we have sent into harms way. Protest has never done that, they have only confused and left a wedge between the people of America to the point that we are no longer united. I feel it is the duty of all Americans to work to bring our troops home safely. The best way to do that is to allow them to win and not covet the enemy by creating doubt here at home.
We have always had the ability to win but a few politicians have in every war since the 2nd World War stood in the way of victory. They claim they are the peace makers but in real life they have impeded the process of long term peace and have put our men and women at risk in doing so. It's as if we have learned nothing from history. If we want peace we have to be strong to the point of creating fear among our enemies. When we are at war the whole Country should be at war not just our soldiers. We have the know how, we have the weapons and we have the greatest military on earth yet we allow a minority of our population to bring us to our knees in front of the entire world.
We have created a generation of little people who would rather have someone else or the government take care of their problems. Little people who have never taken responsibility for their own actions, the not me generation. Where are the giants who have stepped up to lead us in the past? Where are the Roosevelts, the Trumans the Eisenhowers and Reagans who stood larger than life to lead us to victory and real peace. What do we have now from the left wing of the democratic party but another peace at all cost and give everyone something for nothing candidate. The promise of change is all it takes, the fact that we will be changing from a democratic republic to a socialist republic doesn't seem to matter to many. I think the world is in for a big surprise come the 4th of November when the majority in our country are by themselves in the voting booth and decide that they are not quite ready to give up on our America.
And that's my opinion, Don
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You're about as far out in left field .... oh, I mean RIGHT FIELD, sorry .... as Manny Ramirez would be if the shift was on!
You've got a bunch of mixed factors all mushed together into a glob of jibberish that probably doesn't taste good when you're trying to swallow it. At least, it didn't to me.
I was in college in the 60's and I was drafted into the Army from 70-72. I agreed with all the peaceniks ~ and Muhammad Ali who said: "I ain't got nothin' against them Viet Cong ~ but I had to go to war or try to protest. It was my generation (apparently you weren't part of it, you seem to have resented all that was done) who STOPPED the war, who got women's liberation, and affirmative action, and made corporations start hiring more fairly, even giving workers more rights.
Liberals are people who CARE, not those GET OUT OF MY WAY bloviators who have no ideas except ANARCHY. It's just that the POLICE STATE that Bush and his cronies have implemented makes it hard for anyone to protest without being called a TERRORIST and being hauled off to some foreign land where you never see an attorney or the light of day again.Â
Obama will open more doors than anyone you can name. All you Libertarians want to do is close them. Give you your guns, don't make you pay taxes, give you back your gold-currency, and SWEET MAMA, you're happy! I don't see any Libertarians getting hauled off to jail for the causes they believe in like the LIBERALS have. Why don't YOU stand up and be counted?
Your the one out in left field. The only doors Obama will open are the ones to our checkbooks and the one that will destroy our medical system. If you like socialism so much what has kept you here in America? I am a Viet Nam Vet also and I knew a few like you, some of them even cost the lives of others because they didn't care.
"I don't see any Libertarians getting hauled off to jail for the causes they believe in like the LIBERALS have."
If you don't see it your eyes are shut tight Master C. Open them up! I can't believe some of the crap that comes out of your keyboard. Take off your liberal-socialist-colored glasses for 5 seconds and you'll find libertarians are your allies in the fight for justice and always have been.
"It's as if we have learned nothing from history."Â "When we are at war the whole Country should be at war not just our soldiers."
 When there is a Constitutional Declaration of War we win, when there is not, the country divides and we neither win nor lose, which means we lose. Arbitrary adventures by the president to use the military to police the world in the name of peace, without gaining the support of the people, divides the country and we lose even if we win. In the Constitution, war declaration resides in Congress for a reason. It is the litmus test for the use of military might. Everytime it is ignored, victory is impossible.
The Afganistan and Iraq wars were a military victory within days if not a day. You can't win an occupation, though. No one can define exactly what "winning" is. The American people lost again, even if we "win." Since some vague unacheivable victory condition is not possible, the best way to protect the people whom we have sent into harms way is to allow them to come home. Only this time, there won't be anyone spitting on them or accusations of "baby-killer." They will instead find about 200 million sympathetic shoulders to cry on. They are not heroes or villians this time. They are victims of a presidential con-game that ensnared the entire country.
I knew too many like you, too, during Viet Nam. Gung-ho robots who just went about killing like it was a job. I wrote an article about guys like that entitled: "What Is A Soldier?"
Thanks Dirty, I couldn't have said it better myself. I didn't write this to get shot at just putting my feeling out to help me through this turmoil in our country.Â
D Farley, appreciate your willingness to fight for me but let the liberal rave it rolls off most peoples back anyway. ps Thanks for your service to the country. I too am a vet who takes affront to some of these whacko comments.
Posted By: Jahfre Fire Eater
Date: 2008-10-28 06:08:40
Nice Article, Don. I understand your sentiment but I, for one, am afraid that Obama will TRY to be FDR and extend our depression for most of the rest of my life.
As for your "Giants", well, FDR continued and expanded Hoover's policies of big government spending programs, same as Obama will.  He brought America to her knees and kept here there for a decade or more. Not a hero.
Truman was a fear-driven little liberal whose irrational fear of a "domino theory of Communist take-over" fueled his ends-justify-the-means foreign policy as defined in the Truman Doctrine. He was a typical Democrat, a fear monger, intent on scaring as many people into supporting him as possible.
Eisenhower seemed like a conservative Republican for a time but in the end he also abandoned his principles and fully embraced the irrational, fear-based Truman Doctrine. I believe Ike's failed backbone opened the door to the neocon take-over of the GOP.
Ronald Reagan also began his presidential tenure as a man of principle. However, by then the neocons and Keynesians were pervasive in his party and they undermined Mr. Reagan's resolve; leading to the debacle of supply-side economics fueled by massive debt. Sorry all you Reagan idolizers, borrow and spend is just as liberal a policy as the typical Democrat's tax and spend paradigm.
True, these men may have been giants among us but they couldn't prevent the consequences of their misguided policies from wreaking havoc on the USA for a generation or more after their actions.
Where are the PRINCIPLED Giants? Do any exist? Not that I'm aware of.
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