Topic: Ron Paul
Beyond Ron Paul, It's Time to FIRE CONGRESS! Even if Ron Paul becomes president, it will do little good because he is only replacing one bad man. There are exactly 544 more who need replacing.by Alex Wallenwein
(conservative)
Friday, April 25, 2008
Ron Paul has always said that the Revolution is much larger than him, that he i sjust the catalyst that set it in motion again, after it lay dormant for over 230 years. He is right, of course.
Why?
1. Even if he does get the nomination and wins the general election, the Revolution will have merely gotten out of its starting blocks;
2. His 'Meetups' alone now have an idle potential of at least 100,000 committed revolutionaries (only a few thousand of them, at best, are State Delegates. The others are now free to pursue a new and much larger goal);
3. Washington is very sick. It needs more than just a "doctor" it needs surgery!
4. These 100,000-plus idle volunteers are more than enough to successfully perform that surgery!
What kind of 'surgery' are we talking about?
The wholesale excision of the cancer of party politics from the American body politic!
The Cancer of Party Politics
Party politics is what has allowed the "Gang of 545" to serve its corporate masters by literally robbing American citizens blind, dumb, and silly. They did this by neatly dividing the electorate into two roughly equal factions called political parties' and keeping them busy fighting the wrong enemy each other, rather than those who are robbing them blind.
Who are the Gang of 545? They are the US house of representatives (435), the US senate (100), the president (1), and the supreme court (9).
By framing the battle in terms of which party controls the Gang of 545 and thereby Washington DC, they were able to control the entire nation and thereby almost the entire world. But, now
That Party Is Over!
The party is over for party politics because a growing number of groups and individuals, working completely independently of each other, have discovered and continue to discover the key for returning all political power in America to those who inherited it from the founders:
If the Ron Paul Revolution's success on Meetup.com is any indication, the FIRE CONGRESS! Meetups will be the force in every congressional election to come, from here on out.
The very fact that all of these people and groups independently sprang into existence and into action - is proof that this is truly an idea whose time has come - and everybody knows that nothing, absolutely nothing, no force in the entire world, can stop an idea whose time has come!
What is that idea?
The idea is to disregard all considerations of "party", "issues", "agendas", "candidates", "personalities", and ideologies, and to simply throw all of the bums out of office! No pardons, no excuses.
As to the current president, he has already reached his constitutional term limit. As to congress (535), the People are about to impose de facto term limits on them. As to the supreme court, once congress is brought back under control, the People can utilize a never discussed, but easy to use provision in the constitution to recall or impeach any justice who violates his clear oath of office.
Those who call themselves conservatives know that the "conservative revolution" of 1994 was a dismal failure. A sellout. Those who cal themselves "liberals" or "progressives" know that the congress they elected in 2006 was and is a dismal failure nd a sellout. Party politics is the cause of that failure because both parties are completely beholden to the corporate interests that lobby and finance them.
Question: Why will this surgical effort be successful?
Answer: Because it is so laughably, ridiculously, easy to do!
And how is it done?
All any American voter has to do when the fall elections come around, whether it be in the election for their congressional representative, their senator, or even for their city, county, and state officials, is to vote for anyone other than the person who is now in office.
In other words: Just push the OTHER button!
Fire the scoundrel! Fire him or her, regardless of who he or she is. Fire the entire friggin' Congress and your state's governor and its slew of legislators and senators as well. Fire them all!
Is this insanity? No, absolutely not. Insanity has poignantly been defined as doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
Firing Congress will be the opposite of insanity. It will restore physical, mental, and emotional sanity to the American body politic. It will be a rare case of "surgery successful, patient alive" in the political realm.
Only the cancer will be gone.
The 'cancer' is not this or that political or social issue or ideology that those in power constantly get us caught up in (by drilling it into our minds through their bought and paid-for media and educational lackeys). The cancer is made up of the people who tell us that there are issues that should divide us, and that we should let those issues make us leap at each other's throats in an illusory battle for the (right wing or left wing) "soul of America".
The true soul of America is this: We the People are supposed to have all of the political power and we are supposed to be free.
Are you a progressive or liberal who doesn't like war? Well, we are all at war with each other. Are you a conservative who hates the tyranny of a socialist state? Well, we are all being tyrannized by the Gang of 545 - because we allow them to make us fight each other instead of fighting them.
Let's take our sights off each other and onto them and fire the whole rotten bunch! Let's heal America from what really ails her: Those 535 metastasizing cells of cancer in our Congress.
Never mind the media. They will tell you about all of the horrible things "the other" party has done, is doing, or will be doing while making you believe that "the other" party controls the media somehow.
The truth is that those who control the media control both parties.
Never mind your neighbor, relative, or coworker who tells you that "we" have to re-elect this or that congressional bum who brought this or that piece of earmarked bacon home last year.
Never mind the voice inside you that tells you that firing "your" party's guy or gal will only help "the other" party advance its nefarious agenda.
Just fire him, whoever he is! Fire her, whoever she is! It doesn't matter. "Business as usual" will never stop in Washington DC (or in your state's capitol or city hall) if you keep on voting as usual.
Campaign finance laws or other "anti-corruption" laws will never do the job of cleaning up our congress. Why? Because those laws are always written by the ones whom we already know to be corrupt!
You are the key to this nation's sanity. You are the scalpel that cuts the diseased tissue, again and again, so the disease can no longer spread through the entire country.
You have the power to vote. You (still) have the unquestioned right and the ability to push the other button!
Ask yourself: if you don't push that other button in this coming fall election for how long will you still have that power?
Posse comitatus' is gone. The right of habeas corpus is gone. The Military Commissions Act, the Patriot Act, the FISA bill, the Real ID Act, even presidential executive orders that constitute blatant unilateral power grabs under so-called "emergency powers" those all exist because this congress and all prior congresses have voted them into law right under your nose and under "your" party's leadership.
How Did That Happen?
Because 535 special interest-funded political prostitutes know that you will simply take it, lying down, crawling on your belly while they laugh at you.
That's how!
How will firing them all change this? Let me count the ways:
1. By firing them, you will remind them that you are undeniably the boss. Only the boss can fire someone, never the doorman. These "officials" have forgotten whom they serve. Remind them!
2. You will let "your" party (the one who screwed you by allowing laws to be passed that kill your freedom) know that the party is over; Oh, by the way: when it comes to electing your party bosses push the other button as well;
3. You will let the other guy or gal you elected by pushing the other button know why they were hired, who got hired them, and who will fire them out again;
4. Once you have their attention, let them know you want corporate special interests to be incapable of claiming the same rights and privileges as live human beings. Go here to see why - and how easily - this can be achieved;
5. This will send a resounding message to all who have too much political ambition, who go to Washington to further their own (and their lobbyists') interests instead of those of the country and yours. The message: "You have two years (or six) to do your job, and that's it."
6. This will take away their incentives to vote themselves pay raises. Who wants to vote to give the next guy a bigger paycheck?
7. The president, whoever he may be, will know that he won't have a rubber-stamp congress to pass whatever law he proposes. He will also know why congress is the first branch of government under the Constitution, and his only the second;
8. The political parties' so-called leaders will know they can't play the "hate the other guy, party, whatever, fill-in-the-blank" game anymore. Their influence will pale compared to yours;
This list is much longer, but we'll stop here.
Firing Congress Is Sexy!
Firing congress is sexy because it's sooo easy - and powerful.
Feel your power during this coming election when you let your finger hover over the incumbent's name on that voting machine screen or when you let that stylus hover over the ballot card. All it takes is for you to move your finger by one inch and push the other button, punch out the other hole!
Print this article out and read it again on the day you vote, just before you get in your car or before you lick that envelope, if you vote by mail.
This is not about "Ron Paul". It is not about "party". It is not about "the presidency". It isn't even about political ideology or about any particular candidate, at all. It is about you and your country. You can either take it back - or turn it over to the Gang of 545, for good. It's your choice.
If you want your Rep to keep walking, let your finger do the talking.
In other words: This time, vote with your middle finger!
Are you worried that Ron Paul may lose his seat if everybody does this? Ask him if he minds. If he can get you to fire congress I its entirety and take the reins of this country back into your own hands, he will know that he has succeeded beyond his wildest dreams. President or not, Congressman or not, he will be able to retire in the secure knowledge that his beloved country is safe- and that its People are still free.
He himself said that this Revolution was never "his."
It is ours! It is yours!
He just came along to remind us of that.
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DON'T fire Ron Paul or Kucinich (I'm in neither of their districts, but are there others like these? We could use the Patriot Act as a touchstone, or something. The point is that those replacing Congressmen who actually tried to follow the Constitution might not even go that far. We do have to know who are friends are.
Prior to this year, I didn't know who Ron Paul was. I vastly prefer him to any other, but there are a handful I know of and possibly more I don't that may be better than anyone we can expect to replace them.
Howabout vote out everyone who voted for the Patriot Act and telecom surveillance act?
Posted By: Carlo C (Miami, FL)
Date: 2008-04-25 11:56:49
Creator,
You fail to see that our vote DOES NOT COUNT,... really, it doesn't. There's voter fraud everywhere and I am pretty sure at the end, the final results these Diebold machines spit out are customized in secret by the powers that be,.. where most of the time or in the most siginificant elections.. they choose the winner, not We The People.
But it's cute to see you think you can fire these criminals through our flawed voting process.
This Revolution is just experiencing its first phase (awakening),... trust me, its last phase won't be pretty, most likely it will be filled with blood and bullets, that's the only way We The People ever earned our freedom.
What's the thinking? Fire everyone, and make the replacements nervous? Then what? We need to do the hard work of letting them know what we want. Freedom. Small government. Restoring the Constitution.
Can yo imagine the total disorientation the newcomers will go through if 98 or 100 percent of the old guard are gone?
There will be no "old boyz network" to be broken in by. There will be no deeply entrenched power cliques to suck up to, anymore. Corporate lobbists will have to go to work on "training" a completely new batch of legislative shills to do their bidding.
The new batch will be more than just "nervous." They will be utterly without guidance, disoriented, and scared. They will have to find their own way around the halls of congress, make their own alliances and create their own networks.
Keeping the same batch in there just so a few supposedly "good ones" can stay means denying the good ones whatever actual effectiveness they could have had. Besides, who will really go to bat against someone they REALLY like in their district, like Ron Paul.Nobody will.
Don't worry about the good ones. If they really are good, they will take care of themselves.
Ron has nothing to fear from this movement The full brunt of the GOP establishment couldn't get him out of office during this primary. He beat that little pussy that challenged him with a resounding 70 percent, and the Democrats don't even run a candidate against him!
The point is that making prefabricated exceptions along this or that candidate or issue (like the Patriot Act, etc.) will allow the current establishment to herd us back into our old and well-worn political tracks and cages - the ones that have always served them, and never us.
Those of you who think that only an armed revolution will do the trick are seriously deluded. Are you going to donothing now and just wait around until the bullets start flying? Why do you think Ron isn't calling us to arms? Because he knows better. To those of you who believe that only flying bullets will set us free: what makes you think you know better than Ron Paul? He's been in the thick of things for over thirty years!
Voting machines can at best skew the vote by 5 to10%. We can outdo them, easily.
You want to field your own candidates, run for local and state office yourself? The we at the FIRE CONGRESS! Meetups are your best friends!
Everybody who wants to vote against an incumbent needs someone to vote for. That will be you - or your freedom candidate of choice. Your name will be next to the "other button" we are telling people to push.
Are you afraid your challenger (or yourself?) will be removed too soon once elected? If so, you are betting on him (yourself?) being as stalwart and well-grounded a person as Ron Paul is. Trust me, there aren't many of his caliber, and if you think you are different, chances are you are deluding yourself.
If those you put into office are faced with the same old, entrenched, and lobby-funded power networks, I can almost promise you that you or your candidate will be sucked into the vortex. Back to business as usual. Only if that old boys network is utterly obliterated do you stand a fighting chance!
If you want to stay in the multi-compartment sheeps pen the powers have assigned to you, so be it - but please don't call yourself a Ron Paul "Revolutionary", then.
I have to say the sensationalist appeal of this article would have been better served by a clear sense of direction, purpose, and realistic execution.
I'm sure there's more meaning to your case, but you seem to have oversimplified what you were trying to say through anger and frustration. And appeal to anger is fine and dandy, but not when the speaker rants and raves all the time.
Therefore, most of what you have suggested seems to have been thought up without much of a rationale. Fire Congress? Cool, novel idea. Yeah, let's give up everyone to make it fair and show our power or whatever. I kinda see what you're saying. But the rest of your argument makes little sense.
Vote for anyone except the incumbents, don't listen to the media... la la la. It seems to me that the point you're making is an absolutist one. What's the purpose of a message vote like that when you have no distinct message? And don't tell me "anyone but this 'gangstah'" is your meme.
I don't know if it tires anyone else to see such sensationalism pervade NC. Your suggestion eschews logic in favor of just demonstrating sheer power. How are we better served by doing that? Are you familiar with the phrase "don't throw the baby out with the water"? That's exactly what we'd be doing.
No. Even if it was plausible (in a wonderfully idealist world), the ramifications of such actions would probably be more catastrophic in the long run. "We, the people" never makes for much of a compelling argument these days, as those who invoke its usage almost always look on with blind eyes to the ignorance of the masses.
As I was reading this I said to myself, "Doc, sure as poop someone is going to say..." almost the exact words uttered by Spence.
As often as I've seen articles like Mr. Wallenwein's, just as often have I seen planted articles like those of Spence's. Planted? Oh yeah! Spence is obviously part of the statist politiburo which is hell-bent on retaining its power and its place over us.
People like Spence, with no viable ideas of his or her own are wont to toss a monkey wrench into any idea or plan to correct injustice: "Your ideas are simplistic..." he'll rant; "Everyone is ignorant and that's why they listen to you..." he'll moan. But will he offer anything other than the status quo? Why would he? He revels in the status quo!
No, Mr. Wallenwein, your idea isn't new, but it's still as good and viable as when first proposed.
The masses aren't so much ignorant as they are afraid. They fear that the master they know isn't as terrible as the master unknown. They know that it doesn't matter who you vote for because government always gets in, but they are able to live their lives with a miminum of trepidation under the thumbs of their current kings. They are scared that the new kings elected willy-nilly by voting protest votes might destroy what little safety and comfort they presently enjoy.
But like Carlo C of Miami says above, our votes aren't really counted anyway. For proof, ask yourself this question: If everyone refused to vote, even the candidates themselves, do you honestly believe government would pack up their tazers and go home?
Sounds like a good idea to me, assuming I can just vote for a Libertarian instead of the incumbent scoundrel. I've been doing that for years. But persuading the American people to do that will be a huge challenge. How can we make that happen?
SPENCE and LLOYD KEMPSON are both NeoCom traitorous trolls. FIRE CONGRESS is a fabulous idea. With all the cliques gone from power and the long-serving madmen that scurry through the hall of Congress departed, maybe the new bunch will start work on restoring the CONSTITUTION and quit trying to turn us into the North American Union. Remember, evil 545, there are way more of us than you.
I suppose it is still too bold in this day and age to think and act logically in accordance with one's principles, instead of throwing them to the winds and embracing a wanton lust of absolutist platforms and anti-intellectualism.
If I'm a plant, then this site is nothing more than an elaborate psy-op experiment by the CIA. Sounds outlandish, doesn't it? Well, to any other person maybe, but not you guys., it seems. Nosireebob.
But you're the judge here, right? Tell me, how did you reach the conclusion that his idea was viable in the first place? Could it be because it's more convenient for you than actually destroying the interests that have become firmly entrenched in our political system the proper way? Yeah, cause you know, there's nothing that shows your resolve and optimism in action greater than placing so much faith on a mindless, uncoordinated gesture as "vote for any stupid, just not this stupid."
Firing Congress seems a great idea, but it's just changing a bandage on an infected wound. I'm sure that you guys won't let that trouble you too much, as you intend to simply keep ripping it out and putting a new one on everytime. Cheers.
Posted By: Alex Wallenwein
Date: 2008-04-27 10:17:26
Quote from Spence: "What's the purpose of a message vote like that when you have no distinct message?"
Second Quote: "Why pour the baby out with the bathwater?"
Alex' reply:
Your personal inability to understand the plain message does not make it indistinct. The messagte is simply: "People to congress, People to congress: Stop operating outside the law we gave you!" With the afterthought being: "If you don't listen, we'll get rid of you."
I would be interested in seeing under what rationale you would allow a lawbreaker to remain in congress after he has demonstrated his utter disrespect for the law he was given (i.e., the Constitution) over and over again.
In other words: If the "baby" has positively identified itself as Rosemary's, I have no compunctions about pouring it down the drain with the sloshy bathwater. In fact, I might be tempted to perfrom a certain ritual on it before pouring it out.
I find it interesting how you chose those two quotes to make a false case against me, while ignoring the rest of what I said. Not so much interesting as it was expected.
"Your personal inability to understand the plain message does not make it indistinct. The messagte is simply: "People to congress, People to congress: Stop operating outside the law we gave you!" With the afterthought being: "If you don't listen, we'll get rid of you."
Simple and distinct are two different things. Just cause it's simple does not mean it always carries a clear purpose and intent. In fact, if it was my personal inability-- or you might try unwillingness- to sound off on such a sensationalist log as "WE FUGGIN OWN YOU!" because of that.
"I would be interested in seeing under what rationale you would allow a lawbreaker to remain in congress after he has demonstrated his utter disrespect for the law he was given (i.e., the Constitution) over and over again."
This demonstrates that after labeling others who refuse to accept this idea as a revolutionary proposition as incapable of understanding it, it is you who do not understand why anyone might not sign your little rah-rah petition.
If I must, I will clearly point out to you that I already said something that would have made your argument null and void, had you not conveniently skipped over it:
"Firing Congress seems a great idea, but it's just changing a bandage on an infected wound."
I'm not privvy to the notion, entirely, but you're not doing anything to remove the interests that break our legislators in the least. You also neglect to mention that you might just get stuck with someone worse than the incumbent, as impossible from the realm of logic as that sounds to you, and you even fail to interpret what I meant by such a common phrase as "throw the baby out with the water".
"In other words: If the "baby" has positively identified itself as Rosemary's, I have no compunctions about pouring it down the drain with the sloshy bathwater. In fact, I might be tempted to perfrom a certain ritual on it before pouring it out."
You're even willing to cast aside scarcely replaceable politicians such as Paul and Kucinich. That is truly asinine, I must say. Further proof of the destructive influence of absolutist rhetoric.
On one end, your answer is to totally dissolve the current Congress, and the next, hedging all your bets that the next slate will obey you. I've already mentioned the problem with this logic. Not my fault anymore if you don't see it.
Cream rises to the top and the crud falls to the bottom. I'm not worried about losing the good Dr. Paul. Hey! What if whenever the Global elite's figurehead is speaking before Congress, the camera shows both Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich as the Majority and Minority Leaders!
When the majority of congress are CFR members (Cheney having been a director) that's what I call an infestation of criminality that has to be fired upon! Allowing those who participate in this overthrow of the constitution to keep their jobs as long as they don't break the law again is like saying it's ok to shred the constitution and break your oath only once and then after that we fire you?....... what rubbish! The Constitution says we need to change the government in the event it's corrupt. The only way you do that is fire the criminals and prosecute!
The problem with good ideas is it takes time for the general population to wake up and see the gorilla in the room. The way to make it happen is to keep bashing away, day after day. I take every single opportunity I get to pass on the message of the revolution. This looks like another useful tool in the box. I plan to use it at every opportunity. Hope you do the same.
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