Topic: Presidential Campaign 2008
Ron Paul, Pennsylvania, and Diebold Vote Fraud Thanks to Diebold and the GOP, this primary election will probably be another of those "best elections money can buy." It's up to you to vote for the conservative Republican of your choice (Ron Paul,) but vote!by creator
(Libertarian)
Tuesday, April 22, 2008
Today is the day to vote for Ron Paul in the Pennsylvania primary election. There is an excellent rationale for doing so given here. You may have your own reasons. Whatever they may be, vote for the conservative Republican of your choice (Ron Paul,) but vote!
Thanks to Diebold and the GOP, this primary election will probably be another of those "best elections money can buy." For details, check out this article about the GOP blocking e-voting reform in Pennsylvania.
Google also at times puts up hurdles to publication. For its own reasons, it will not list as news articles in "poetry form." There is a long and venerable history in America of publishing political commentary in the form of poetry, and I hope to help continue that tradition. And so, if when you first see this article the text below is not in the form of a poem, please check back a while later.
Diebolds and Scams
An Abridged Primer for Naive Pennsylvania Voters (with apologies to Theodor Seuss Geisel)
I-am-Scammed, I-am-Scammed, Vote-scammed-I-am
Vote-scammed-I-am With black-box spam! I do not like this vote fraud plan!
Do you like Diebold machines? I do not like them, Scammed-I-am. I do not like Diebold machines.
Would you like them here or there?
I would not like them here or there. I would not like them anywhere. I do not like Diebold machines. I do not like them, Scammed-I-am.
Would you want them at your polls? Tampering with the voter rolls? Would you rig the ballot box? Would you cheat with phony locks?
No ballot box with phony locks. Not at the polls, no voter rolls. I do not like them here or there. I do not like them anywhere. I do not like Diebold machines. I do not want rigged black-box schemes.
Can they? Are they? From afar? Cheating? Robbing? Yes they are! They would, they could, cheat from afar. They are cheating, you will see. They don't want us to be free! All I want is to be free. Not squeezed to death! You let me be!
I will not trust a sealed black-box, the one that's called "OK" by FOX. I do not want them at the polls to jigger up the voter rolls. I do not like them here or there. I do not like them anywhere. I do not like Diebold machines! I'm full to here with black-box schemes!
Say! In the dark? Here in the dark! Would you, could you, in the dark? That's where they rob you, in the dark. They give your vote to other men.
You may not see it, but it's plain there in the dark without a pen. Not in the light for all to see I do not like them, Sam, you see. Not at the polls. Not in a box. No hanging chad. No lying FOX. I want no Diebold machines there. I do not like them anywhere!
You do not like them. So you say. Try them! Try them! And you may. Try them and you may, I say.
Sam! If you will let me be, I will try them. You will see.
Say! I like Diebold machines -- vaporized by laser beams! I like them smashed by monster trucks! I like them fertilized by ducks! And I will leave them in the rain, and in the dark, under a train. Beneath a car. Dropped from a tree. They're all so damnable, you see! So I will take this damned black-box, and I will feed it to a FOX. Yes! I will smash it with a sledge. And I will grind it into shreds. Yes, I will burn them here and there. Say! I will crush them ANYWHERE!
I do so like Diebold machines! I finally see just what you mean!
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Once again you go on to make libertarianism less attractive to Main Streamers who will see this as another attempt to deflect Ron Paul's loss on something other than his crappy campaign. There are not enough Ron Paul supporters out there for a diabolical plot that would want to short some of his votes. I mean seriously, he does not have the support of Limbaugh, Hanity, or Boortz. What makes you think that the Republican Party would want to take away his 5-10% support?
These voting machines were a response to the dumb ass Florida Democrats who failed to follow a line on a paper ballot pointing to Al Gore. These voting machines have less to do with a minority candidate like Ron Paul and more to do with idiotic Democrats. Please do not stoop to their level.
Pat Buchanon received less than 1% of the state's votes, some would say that the high number was due to single moms named Latwanda who couldn't tell who they were voting for and voted for mister Buchanon instead. Remember the GOP did not have a problem with paper ballots, voting machines were the results of crying Dems.
(In an alternate Universe you would have written about election officials destroying paper ballots.)
What makes you think vote fraud is only about Ron Paul?
Vote fraud and Diebold machines and their ilk are systemic problems that affect all voters and candidates alike (for the worse for voters and most candidates, for the "better" for the beneficiaries of the fraud.)
So Lloyd, who's your candidate anyway? Do you have anything constructive to add to this dialog?
My goal is to be destructive and destroy sillness, irationality, and idiocy that causes people to see Libertarians as kooks.
Reason Magazine does a fairly good job of this, but Lo and Behold they fairly criticized the Ron Paul Campaign, and what did his supporters do? They turned on the magazine like faithful zealots and are now on the verge of kookery. If we ever have a libertarian minded candidate that does play politics, be prepared for the Ron Paul supporters to feel neglected by him when he tries to distance himself from those who would write off his potential for victory based on a voting machine.
In politics you have sometimes have to accept the fact that people will not always agree with you. This is what the kook freinge of every political extreem fails to realize. The people who do realize it usually wet their finger and try to detect which way the wind is blowing and abide by it or try to change the direction if the wind is weak enough.
This is Centrism, this is representative democracy. Just because a majority of people beleive in it does not make it correct, but it does win the election and it does influence the law and how it is enforced.
"The great thing about the United States is that no one political ideology controls the entire country."-Christopher Hitchens
There is nothing "silly" or "kooky" about the vote fraud issue. There's a big difference between pointing out that not everyone will agree with Ron Paul and ridiculing the act of recognizing and publicizing the endemic fraud and manipulation that distorts the entire electoral process.
"Not every comment has to be 'Constructive'" you say, OK, fair enough. However, vote fraud is a serious issue and when you join the chorus of those who would marginalize the subject, in my opinion you would better serve the cause of libertarianism by silence instead.
The point is that you can not use Voter Fraud on the part of the Republican Party as an excuse for Ron Paul's failure when there is ample evidence of him only having 6-10% of the vote atmost throughout the country. (the guy didn't win his own district.)
There were a lot of candidates in the nomination process. Media bias was heavy, they always favored McCain because he said so many bad things about Bush and the fact that he buys into a lot of the same BS that they support.
The bottom line is that Ron Paul is a great guy, a poor politician, and Rationality and Libertarianism is not popular in America.
Remember the 2000 race there were more conservative candidates than Bush running for the nomination. It came down to two Centrists McCain Vs. Bush. The higher the Office the better that your odds are running as a Centrist. (No Libertarians don't count as being more "centrist")
If libertarianism is ever going to get anywhere, then we need to start winning at the state level.
Looks like Ron Paul was not a victim of fraud. He actually got 16% of the vote. A guy who has dropped out of the race managed to get 11%. So give the Evangelical Huck's to Paul and you get a whoping 27%. With numbers like that, you have to wonder when this guy is going to seek the Governor's office in Austin. Could he win?
Did you write that poem? It is incredibly clever and entertaining. Sometimes we have to laugh to keep from crying, right?
There's no doubt in my mind that there is massive vote count and election fraud going on. If you take the amount of votes reported for Ron Paul in each primary and then triple them, you might have the actual number.
Why, in the huge state of California, I don't believe they even counted the votes at all. 183 districts in every county all came out identical -- McCain #1, Romney #2, Huckster #3 and Ron Paul #4 with only 4%! Absurd.
Ron Paul is massively popular, much more than the media will ever let on or the Diebold elections will ever show. I talked to a lot of people on Tax Day about Ron Paul in the streets of my city and I'd say 95% had not only heard of him but loved him and his message. He is by far the most beloved candidate and when that doesn't translate to actual votes, there's something really suspicious going on.
BTW, I sympathize that your first comment was from an idiotic "Reason Magazine/Smear Campaign Libertarian" with an ulterior motive. That type of ignorance really makes my mind hurt.
"There's no doubt in my mind that there is massive vote count and election fraud going on. If you take the amount of votes reported for Ron Paul in each primary and then triple them, you might have the actual number."
LOL HA HA HA LOL!!!!
*****!
This proves it: "Reason Magazine/Smear Campaign Libertarian"
Reason Magazine was being critical from a Libertarian point of view and you Paultards cry. Neal Boortz still has had not one single interview with the good Dr. Ron Paul. Why does Ron Paul avoid the people who could support him the most? It is because he is a weak politician that is afraid to debate somebody who does not support his every position. Ross Perot had more support than this guy.
There are many sites that shed light on how the Diebold machines can be manipulated. What some people don't understand, which is quite obvious, is that when your vote is stolen, so is your freedom. I really wonder about our so-called "democracy". As I've stated in other articles written elsewhere, voting machines are not foolproof, there is no accountability. When you purchase something you get a receipt of the transaction. What do you get when you vote? A warm fuzzy feeling that your Ron Paul vote got turned into a McCain vote? Or something of that nature...
It is a good thing not to put total trust into your government. They are in place to serve us. Not for us to serve them. The voting system should be accountable and audited... It's the only way to guarantee freedom and a democratic system.
Why is this so hard for some people to understand?
Loved the "Diebold and Scams" e-vote parody. Your ludicrous detractor, Lloyd, obviously cares not for Ron Paul or our freedom as it is painfully obvious to anyone whose head is not sandwiched between their legs that the mainscream media has blatantly silenced or skewed the election processes now for decades, esp. this year with the advent of Dr. Ron Paul running on the electable Republican party ticket. Even the CNN moderator had MORE air time than Dr. Ron Paul @ the CA Reagan Library debate, and let's not forget his exclusion from the FAUX news debate, which included the likes of girly-man Giuliani, who Dr. Paul beat in the Iowa Caucus. The "coincidental" foul play went on ad nauseum state:state, and even the GOP did their level best in states like LA and CA to obfuscate or manipulate the actual vote count. I know as I was a VOTE FRAUD victim in CA's REP. Primary myself whose vote was likely among the 100's of 1000,s of votes NOT counted who switched from INDEP. to REP. to vote for Dr. Paul or DEM's ballots NOT counted due to confusion about how to use their ballot.
Further, blackbox voting's website proved that the New Hampshire Primary was rife with FRAUD and the YOU TUBE video they submitted confirmed that with the preposterous packaging, transportation, and securing of the voters' ballots. The S.O.S. even admitted NOT knowing where the original E-VOTE memory cards were so as to verify the ballots, which is in direct violation of the "24 months" law on the books for all such e-voting records!
I'm not sure what "kooky koolaid" looney Lloyd's been imbibing of late (how's my alliteration Creator? lol), but he should shut up and sit down and watch Aaron Russo's documentary film, "America: Freedom to Fascism" ASAP to wash, repeat, and rinse clean his "brainwashed" FAUX news political perspective, which is CFR-controlled commentary designed to manipulate naive numbskulls too busy, apathetic, myopic, or commotose to discern the truth.
Purloining political elections is what the "shadow government" has prided itself in doing so well since E-VOTING sealed the deal for yet one more CLINTON or BUSH, and now in PA for yet another CLINTON to STEAL their way into the Whitewashed house!
Those who dare to blow the whistle or challenge the status quo (i.e. Dr. Paul) are deliberately and systematically villified, ridiculed, and relegated to "3rd tier" status by the neo-cons and newscrafters profiteering from spinning the truth or silencing all opposition to their politically correct view.
Suggestion for all R.P. faithful, go to this website and do all you can to make sure your state has R.P. on your state ballot in November as a legitimate "Write-in" Candidate for Pres., and make sure you ask for and get to use a PAPER BALLOT to record your "write-in" vote for R.P. to ensure as best you can the "chain of custody" is NOT compromised. Then We the People may actually get an outside chance to really see just how popular in the "popular vote" Dr. Paul really is.
Just a quick thought on campaigns, debates and elections...
We should try it American Idol style. Everyone gets three minutes, once a week, to get their message to America. We all call in or text our vote and get the results the next night.
I'd love to see Hillary and McCain "booted off" with the final two contestants for the Presidency being Ron Paul and Barak Obama.
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