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What's More Important, Ron Paul or His Issues?

If he decides to drop out what do his supporters do?
by Kipper Mathews
(libertarian)
Sunday, February 24, 2008



While Ron Paul has said that he is in till the end and has no intention of switching back to the Libertarian Party, many of his supporters are suggesting that he needs to change parties, if need be, in order to save America.

Without implying that he doesn't still have a chance or that it is in anyway a lost cause to continue to support Ron in his run for President, it would be naive to not at least consider that he might at some point concede.

If...that was to happen, is it more important for his supporters to write-in his name in a show of support for his causes and to let the world know that many Americans across the country are assembling to save The Constitution, or would it be more important to change their votes to another candidate that is running on the same principle issues as Ron Paul, so that they can "save" America.

Libertarian Party Candidate and Nolan Chart columnist Christine Smith is also running for President on much the same platform as Ron Paul, agreeing with all his issues except for her views on gays and abortion (which I personally agree with.)

With help form the media, the American People have been brainwashed to believe that we only have a Two Party System in this country, rendering the Libertarian Party almost obsolete when it comes to voting for President. Trying to persuade Americans otherwise would be just as difficult as getting them to realize that Ron Paul is running for President. That said, changing to another candidate in a third party is a long shot as well.

I hope that you aren't expecting me to give you the answer to this problem, as I myself am still trying to figure out the best possible move that we should take. All I know for sure is, that what really makes it possible to "Save America" ( which probably should have been Ron's motto) is not only his supporters overwhelming loyalty, but the ever growing mass of his supporters as a whole.

No matter where this election process goes, this mass of true patriotic Americans, created by the visions of Ron Paul must remain as one. One with a voice of freedom and belief that the country that our ancestors and ourselves grew up in and believe in, is The Land of the Free. As this mass grows, it will become an unstoppable movement, with the power of freedom given to us by The Constitution of the United States of America to defend the ourselves. And we will. But we must stick together and in order to stick together we must communicate. We need not just a plan, like the plan we all have now, backing Ron Paul with everything we've got, but one that consists of staying united as a mass with a cause, regardless of how this election turns out.

Ron's proposed March on Washington is a powerful tool, one that I'm sure he figured would help get the message out to millions more people that a peaceful revolution is in the making. With this tool he knows just as we do that even though the outside forces are trying to stop us, and they might stop him, that we will grow to a non stoppable mass and as a mass, in time we will prevail.

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If I don't get the opportunity to make my voice heard with my vote for Ron... I won't even consider voting for the "Change" preachers.

We need to get politicians to see the most Americans don't want change. We want it to be unchangeable, the way it was before they gave somebody the right to change it.

I personally believe this would be easier having somebody in government along with Ron Paul fighting for our cause.

Therefore.....My personal opinion would be that in event that Ron Paul does not, at some point continue to run, we all join together and vote Christine Smith, Libertarian.

But I open to what ever "We" decide to do.

God bless America !

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Published: Sunday, February 24, 2008
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Posted By: lono1
Date: 2008-02-24 07:23:56

Hey I'm learning french right now. See Ya.

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Posted By: DX10
Date: 2008-02-24 08:06:58

I wonder if Dr. Paul would be amenable to being drafted for the LP Vice President position?  I see your point and it would be a great thing for his supporters to have a ligitimate place to go to send the message to both parties that we are not to be neglected.  I have been in favor of the write in, except it is not as well organized and not likely to be reported.

And, if the march on Washington is not well orgainized it would be bad.  Another plan that might be more successful was suggested by one of my son-in-laws to have one day set aside where all of us descend on every county courthouse to declare for a return to the Constitution and liberty.  This would be much easier and less expensive on folks and would certainly be picked up by local media if not the MSM.  It could be repeated on another day for the State Capitals.  I sent this idea to Lew, but don't know if he passed it to the campaign or not, but the campaign has to take the lead. 

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Posted By: MikeFoster
Date: 2008-02-24 09:56:50

Please don't write-in Ron Paul! I agree with Kipper that if Ron Paul is not on the ballot I will vote for the Libertarian candidate.

Write-ins for Ron Paul will not be counted if he does not file as a write-in candidate, but in some States a candidate losing the primary cannot file as a write-in. In some States write-ins are not allowed for the office of President.

A few references:

Missouri: "If a candidate files for nomination to an office and is not nominated at a primary election, that candidate cannot file a declaration of intent to be a write-in candidate for the same office at the general election."

South Carolina: "A defeated primary candidate may not actively offer or campaign as a write-in candidate for the ensuing election". and "Write-in votes are not allowed in primary elections or the election of President or Vice-president."

Michigan: "Write-in votes cast for an individual seeking the office of U.S. President who fails to file the required documents are not counted."

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Posted By: LibertyNH
Date: 2008-02-24 10:01:14

even on the (very slim) chance that we could get Ron Paul (or someone like him) elected, and it's looking like that's just an impossibility with the way everything is rigged against it (the media, the vote, the 2-party monopoly), I'm not sure he would be able to do much with all the corruption in the other 2 branches of government. What we really need is a Ron Paul and a new constitutional declaration/demand for return to rule of law. Greg Evensen at theheartlandusa.com has drafted such a declaration (copied below) and indeed sent it forth to all elected officials. We in the Ron Paul army should back his efforts, the declaration could be a powerful tool if it had a million (or millions of) signatures behind it...

 the content posted below is the intellectual property of Greg Evensen at theheartlandusa.com...

February 2008

To:

The President of the United States

The Congress of the United States

The Justice Department of the United States

The United Nations Secretary-General

The Chairman of the United States Federal Reserve System

The 50 State’s County Board Chairmen

Greetings:

On behalf of American citizens invited to submit their concerns and suggestions to all of you, and the several hundred that responded, I ask only that you contemplate once again, the serious nature of our present national dilemma and regard these ideas with all of the serious responsibility that they require. This is America, advising you our representatives, or to the other named parties exerting heavy influence over the affairs of this nation. Please consider carefully your response to these matters and the ultimate effect your action or inaction will have on the future of the American people.

These statements are given in no particular order or preference. They represent the deepest, most heartfelt positions held by our fellow citizens.

>Hold all sworn representatives or officials to their oath of office.

>Secure all of the borders from all illegal entries.

>Return to a Constitutional Republic form of government.

>Eliminate all forms of emergency government now in place

>Eliminate maritime or other non-constitutional law and its current use.

>Control the runaway “health industry” and the corrupt deception of pharmaceuticals. Eliminate the FDA, allow testing by the CDC.

>Withdraw permanently from the United Nations. Require the UN to leave US soil immediately. Reject any form of world governance.

>Reaffirm the original constitution as the supreme law of the land.

>Reaffirm the Bill of Rights as unassailable, untouchable natural law. The second amendment allows for unrestricted possession and carry of weapons at any time in any place by anyone (citizens restricted to 18—voting and military induction age) not adjudicated as mentally/emotionally unbalanced or felons convicted of a crime of violence.

>Absolutely close our borders with any force necessary to do so.

>Repeal NAFTA, WTO, or other trade related agreements harmful to US industry and reject any North American Union efforts.

>Eliminate the Federal Reserve System immediately, revoke its charter.

>Eliminate the Internal Revenue System. Tax according to the Constitution’s allowable requirements. Stop the illegal forced collection of taxes from the American worker.

>Eliminate US participation or support of the World Bank and International Monetary Fund.

>Bring home US troops from around the world, place them on borders.

>Drill for and use our own oil in America, off-shore and in Alaska.

>Declare all lobbying at any governmental level by private industry as illegal, a felony.

>Require recognition of the unconstitutionality and illegality of the 14th 16th and 17th amendments. Full repeal of all legislation since 1913.

>Enact a 3x amount import tax on all products formerly created within the US.

>Create an “entry test” for newly elected politicians to prove they can pass a constitutional exam with a 95% or better score.

>Plan A—Eliminate and prohibit all executive orders. Plan B----Require Congressional consent or rejection for all executive orders issued within 10 days of a President’s signature.

>Complete disqualification for an office holder if he/she is a past or present member of any lobbying group, international banking or commerce entity or groups calling for the surrender of US sovereignty such as the Council on Foreign Relations, the US State Dept., etc.

>Create a tariff system that works and that would require all products originating out of country to pass safety measures and pricing standards protective of this nation’s manufacturers and this nation’s workers.

>Convene grand juries in all 50 states to oversee the legality and constitutionality of any/all legislation passed since 1913.

>Declare that corporations are no longer “persons,” have only granted privileges and do only what their charters permit. If they fail their charter obligations they may be permanently revoked within 30 days.

>All public contracts paid for with “tax” money are competitive bid only. No exceptions

>Create Neighborhood Watch Militias in communities wanting them.

>Articles of Impeachment filed for every politician or judge found in violation of his sacred oath of office or violation of jury protections.

>Find, prosecute, deport and criminalize every illegal in America. Don’t say it can’t be done. The government can find anyone, anytime. They ignore illegals. Armed forces border security.

>No monopolies of any kind, break up monster corporations.

>Allow a set time for immunity and require all judges, politicians, military leaders and attorneys to confess treason and be barred from office. If they refuse, indict and imprison for life if found guilty.

>All gun control laws are null and void. Gun-makers immune from frivolous suits.

>Immediate cessation of all work on the North American Union corridor. All secret N. A. Union agreements void.

>Eliminate the Homeland Security Act.

>Eliminate the Patriot Act.

>Eliminate all federal agencies not specifically authorized in the Constitution.

>Eliminate all law enforcement agencies not authorized in the Constitution. Let the states cover security and legal matters.

>Forbid local law enforcement duties to any federal agencies or the US military under ALL circumstances. Let the states handle the issues.

>Require all judges at all levels to inform juries of their constitutional rights and duties. One time failure is grounds for removal from office.

>Reduce the size and budget of the federal government by 80% without exception. States should adhere to the same standard.

>Return the federal government to its constitutionally allowed mandates, authority and limited scope.

>Eliminate the “corporate” status of the United States.

>Return complete autonomy and sovereignty to each of the 50 states.

>Eliminate “US citizenship” as created by the 14th amendment.

>Return all citizens to sovereign state flesh and blood human beings.

>Reject any and all attempts to inflict GPS and informational bio-chips on all citizens. Criminalize anyone who attempts to require their use.

>Require and allow the free exercise of public acknowledgements of God anywhere, anytime and in all things public and private.

>Eliminate all influences, requirements or taxing authority of any international bodies upon American citizens. Criminalize all agencies or individuals who “authorize” foreign troops or international laws from being forced upon citizens of this nation at any level by any agency.

>Eliminate all secret intelligence gathering agencies and the Pentagon. Turn all such duties over to a select panel of generals and civilians answerable directly to the American people for accountability and actions taken.

>Term limits at all levels of government. One six year term for President, two four year terms for Congressmen, two five year terms for senators, the same for state representatives and governors, and five year reviewable terms for Supreme Court judges. Eliminate federal courts at all levels except for Appeals. Same for the states.

>Eliminate the national debt by decree. Return to constitutional coinage and value. All banks to be local. No fractional banking, that practice is a felony--lifetime in prison. No credit cards of any kind.

This represents the top 50 recommendations, frankly demands, by the segment of the population taking the time to submit them. Although they are distilled from hundreds of statements, many of them repeated in one form or another by scores of people with the same concerns, they are very serious and should be taken as such.

Unfortunately for the American people, this election cycle is frightening in its potential. Those anointed to run by their respective parties represent a minority of Americans who have a subversive and destructive agenda waiting to be forced upon us by every manner of unconstitutional authority. That is why this has been sent to you. The American people, that is, those who know the deep, sacrificial history of this nation and its Godly roots, will not long endure any more suffering at the hands of authorities who have given over to the lusts of absolute corrupted power. They have spoken. I encourage you with all due respect to listen to what they have to say. To do otherwise, is to invoke and justify the American nation to challenge your authority and act upon the provisions found in the original Declaration of Independence dealing with such institutional tyranny.

True freedom, the desire for absolute liberty and unwavering support of this nation—as it was instituted---requires that this letter be sent. I beg you to re-examine your positions in regard to this petition, seek change and remedy for it, and join with us in a brilliant renewal of our nation. On behalf of true American Patriots, I serve as their messenger and remain,

Most sincerely,

Gregory L. Evensen

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Posted By: Laura
Date: 2008-02-24 12:31:07

Who is Christine Smith?  Has she ever held public office?  Has she been a governor? a U.S. senator? a U.S. congressman? a federal or state judge?  If Christine Smith, Steve Kubby, and Wayne Root are the best the LP has to offer, forget it!  Can't the LP nominate someone with nationwide name recognition?

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Posted By: Logical Premise
Date: 2008-02-24 14:45:14

"We need to get politicians to see the most Americans don't want change. We want it to be unchangeable, the way it was before they gave somebody the right to change it."

I fell over, out of my chair laughing, when I read that. I laughed myself silly when I read LibertyNH's list of psychotic demands.

I WISH you people would put that shit on a ballot and let the entire American population vote for it. Then , when 90% of the public rejected it, the government should lock the writers of that list of lunacy into a mental health facility.

This is not 1790. Get over it.  

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Posted By: ricknhouston
Date: 2008-02-24 22:12:41

Posted By: Logical Premise
Date: 2008-02-24 14:45:14

"I WISH you people would put that shit on a ballot and let the entire American population vote for it. Then , when 90% of the public rejected it,"

And what if we did and 51% of the American public embraced it ..... would that be enough to convince you?

I think not! 

"This is not 1790. Get over it."  

And of that you are correct ! And I am convinced that if we all just do nothing, as is the "Master Plan" ... then me thinks that my grand children and great grand children will never have the knowledge of what was the "United States of America" because they won't even allow it to be taught in school .... they will simply erase it from history as they will have erased our borders and our sovereignty to become the "North American Union", from the Panama Canal to the Arctic Circle. And all of the loss of blood, life & limb that paid by those before us in the name of "Life, Liberty & the Pursuit of Happiness" will have been in vain .... and that my friend, is a shame!

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Posted By: Logical Premise
Date: 2008-02-25 15:18:15

If 51% of the VOTING American public, not even all of the American public, accepted that, then I'd happily accept it.

Of course, the difference in you and I is you think that 10% of people agreeing with that mess means "people are warming to our message" and I see it as being "you can find someone who will agree with anything".

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Posted By: jim_NYC
Date: 2008-02-26 08:05:15

@ Laura - Who was Ron Paul before this election? For that matter who was Barrack Obama?

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Posted By: Kipper Mathews
Date: 2008-02-29 16:05:50

Interesting responses.

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