Topic: Presidential Campaign 2008
It's time to act, not to whine There's no one to save you but yourselves.by Logical Premise
(Statist)
Friday, February 8, 2008
The sacred rights of mankind are not to be rummaged for among old parchments or musty records. They are written, as with a sunbeam, in the whole volume of human nature, by the hand of the divinity itself; and can never be erased or obscured by mortal power. -- Alexander Hamilton
I have stayed silent this week, since Super Tuesday. I have read the postings here, and on Wonkette, on the Druuge Report, on CNN, on Fox, on the internets. I have listened and thought and considered.
The quote above, by my favorite Founding Father, is why I consider myself a Statist. There is no government, no man and no army, no power that walks the face of the world God gave us that can take away your rights, no matter what the conservatives or liberals or libertarians tell you.
They simply do not have that power, nor will they ever.
We now live in a day where the coronated winner of the Republicans is not a conservative, but is a liar, a traitor, and a savage bloodthirsty animal. McCain has left POW's to die in Vietnam. He has committed all sorts of insanely blatant anti-conservative acts, such as claiming the only people who deserve tax cuts are the poor, pushing to allow amnesty for illegal immigrants, pushed for other countries to tell us what prices to sell our own medicines at (The McCain-Snowe-Dorgan S. 2328, Pharmaceutical Market Access and Drug Safety Act of 2004), and much worse. Most of all, he is blind to the reasons behind this war we are in -- that radicalist Wahhabi Islam is a sect that cannot and will not be able to accept a modern world, and that it is the power that keeps the House of Saud from falling, and that no matter how many terrorists we kill, more will keep coming -- and it matters not if we fight them there, or here.
Obama is a man who's only qualification is that he is black, and somehow being black means I, as a black man, should vote for him. His Blueprint for Change avoids any specifics about how to actually fix the problems in our country, and according to his OWN website, he thinks the reason the economy is in trouble is high taxes on the poor, not enough taxation on the rich, and that poor people need a higher minimum wage. He is a figure of spin, who has nothing more to offer than saying he will be better than Bush was. He is a new Jimmy Carter, and we all know how well that ended up -- with our country made to look like helpless cowards, our already strained economy in a shambles, and our military drawn to anemic levels.
Mike Huckabee is a evangelistic lunatic who frightens even the strongest true Christian, a man who proudly said we should change the Constitution to match the Bible, who will compromise on taxes and the economy as long as he can theocratically order people around and instruct them on how to live. And this is a man who is fundamentally unfit to lead -- he puts a Mexican consulate in Little Rock and says Mexico should have the right to veto us building a wall along their border, then tries to claim he didn't say it. He feels that, as long as he is anti-abortion and doesn't touch people's guns, that's as small government as he needs to be, if he keeps the masses quiet by trotting God out. Jesus, sir, is neither your lapdog nor your servant.
Hillary Clinton is, quite frankly, so far beyond the limits of responsible statism that even the most hardened advocates of government expansion hesitate to support her. Her vow to garnish people's wages to support her health care plan and then having the unmitigated gall to claim it was "optional" shows she thinks the American people are a pack of idiots. This is a woman who is quite happy to use racial and gender lines to turn what should be a discussion on issues into some kind of feminist-bating emancipation. She hasn't gotten rid of the PATRIOT act, she hasn't fixed No Child Left Behind, she hasn't even managed to touch essential things like tort reform -- but she claims she's a leader? She is fundamentally incapable of such, I doubt she could lead starving wolves to fresh meat. The people voting for her are either too racist to vote Obama, too tied to gender identity to accept a man, or too blind to see that she and Obama are identical -- because they offer nothing but empty words.
Dr. Ron Paul is at least, I will openly admit, honest. But he is a naive fool, with a platform based on a completedly outdated model for the world, and does not understand the electorate or the fact that calling something tyranny does not make it tyranny. His plans to tie money to the gold standard or other precious metals either overlook or fail to grasp that such things are under the complete domination of huge cartels who would happily manipulate our money supply just as openly as the Federal Reserve would, except the American people would not even have the luxury of knowing that at least the President would be in CHARGE of the exchange rates. His belief in small governments implies he is blind to the reality that a large portion of the country is dependant on the government , government contracts, or the pork spending of the government, for their jobs and for economic solvency. His idea that a free market would turn around the economy is in complete abayance of reality -- globalized free markets have made our high standard of living our worst enemy.
The truth, people, is that YOU -- America -- has failed, failed utterly, to live up to the ideals set forth by the founding fathers. You are lazy, blind to danger, and too quick to follow whatever sounds like it will work. The people blindly assuming that Obama will "change" our society to be more "fair" are the same as the people blindly assuming that Huckabee will make society more "godly" or that Dr. Paul will restore our "liberty".
Your rights start with you, not with some fool prancing about asking you to vote for him. These are people, not gods, and not above mistakes, and NONE of them can answer the hardest questions facing our country :
We are in a conflict with another culture, a culture that despises all the elements we say are important. Not all Islamic worshippers are of this mindset, but there are a lot of them in the Middle East. We are also in conflict with the totaliariian and amoral government of China, the rapidly thuggish Putin and his KGB thugs in Russia, the decadant and nearly blasphemous EU, and the socialist resurgence in South America. We stand alone, isolated because of our vast arrogance, of the belief we are somehow "better". How will you fix this? War will not solve our problems, and non-intervention will simply allow all of South America to fall to thugs like Chavez, the EU to be overrun by Muslims, and Russia and China to make a new bloc of liberty-hating thugs bent on world domination.
We are in a shambles as a people, where you can't even say "God" in school, but you are a monster if you don't have a handicapped ramp in front of your business, or if you don't say that some illegal immigrant who violated the laws has every one of the rights you do. Our children are ignorant and totally absorbed in a culture that says everyone is equal, that achievement and success is evil, that feelings and "the culture of life" are more important than having a Godly family -- or, even being a decent person. We live in a country where we are annoyed by the need to vote, where turnout for local races is less than 15%, and where the only people who bother to try to get things done are the rich, the elite -- and then we blame them for our problems. How will you change society to fix our flaws, or will you just hand us more empty promises?
We are a culture riven in twain, with one half of the country slavishly devoted to interpreting the Bible literally and suggesting that everything modern science tells us is a lie, even when modern science has proven repeatedly that the Bible is NOT a good source to try tof figure out the nature of the universe. The other half of culture is so focused on materialist gluttony that they ignore the reality that God *does* exist, insisting that anyone with faith is insane, or a fool, and shattering many of the precepts this country was founded on and twisting the remains into some foul altar to money, sex, and entertainment. How in the name of God are you going to unify this country?
None of the canidates have an answer. They say "change", "hope", "faith", or "liberty" -- but they don't have the answers. The only one who can fix this country is you.
I don't care who you vote for, they're all a pack of clowns to me. The last real president we had in this country who could balance the need for government power against the neccessity of freedom and rights was Reagan, and before him Roosevelt. I am sick and tired of reading article after article, website after website, pundit after pundit declairing the answers are so easy if you just "believe in them".
I am sick of believing in your unclothed emperors, who buy your hopes by telling you what you think you want to hear rather than how to fix it. They are all worthless, but you have to vote for one of them. So do so -- whoever you think is best -- and then act.
ACT LOCALLY, for God's sake. If the public schools are crap, the answer isn't to take your children out -- it's to fix the public schools! If the taxes are too high and the welfare rolls are full and illegal immigrants take the lower paying jobs, then the solution is simple : throw the illegals out, lower taxes on businesses and the poor, and hire them. Business won't have the cheapest labor, but they will be investing in their country.
Get off your useless, lazy behinds and run for office. Have you? Look at Christine Smith. I may think the Libertarian party is 100 years out of date, but by God, she has BELIEF in what she is doing, enough to uproot her whole life to try to make it work.
Why can't YOU? Why do you need some smooth-smiling proxy to tell you he or she has the answers? Send money now and I'll give you the gay marriage or outlaw abortion or small government you asked for? Vote for me and I'll change it all!
Lies, and each and every one of you *know* it. Don't keep lying to yourself, this party is over. The Media Circus knows this is all about advertising and not about the future of this country. The future of this country isn't in the hands of some clown who gets elected every four years. It's in the hands of the staffers who are there for 15 that give him the data he reads. It's in the department heads and secretaries that process the goverment's actions, the directors who give it it's policies. You really think that if Obama or Ron Paul get to Washington they can change anything? Have you EVER seen "change" in your entire lifetimes?
If you want change, my fellow Americans, it is upon you. The government cannot take it from you, no mortal power has that might.
More Quotes from Hamilton:
Those who stand for nothing fall for anything.
Civil liberty is only natural liberty, modified and secured by the sanctions of civil society. It is not a thing, in its own nature, precarious and dependent on human will and caprice; but it is conformable to the constitution of man, as well as necessary to the well-being of society.
The origin of all civil government, justly established, must be a voluntary compact, between the rulers and the ruled; and must be liable to such limitations, as are necessary for the security of the absolute rights of the latter; for what original title can any man or set of men have, to govern others, except their own consent? To usurp dominion over a people, in their own despite, or to grasp at a more extensive power than they are willing to entrust, is to violate that law of nature, which gives every man a right to his personal liberty; and can, therefore, confer no obligation to obedience.
Vote, and then act.
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Posted By: Christopher Espinal
Date: 2008-02-08 19:03:33
I don't even know what people mean by change anymore. According to everyone there hasn't been "change." What the hell do people think happened eversince the beginning of this country: change. Our standards of living rose. Government has been given new responsibilities: not necessarily for the better. People live longer lives. We don't have to worry about poverty. We don't have corruption that is nearly as bad as other parts of the world, or even in first world nations. Complaints, complaints, complaints.
I mean c'mon....when we talk about a recession we fear unemployment going up by 1 - 2% or inflation rising 2 - 3% per year. We aren't a third world nation people! The third world nations are the countries that should be complaining about "change."
We don't have to worry about poverty? We don't have to worry about corruption?
I worry about you, Chris. I think all that time around the GOP is starting to affect your mental state. "Change" is a buzzword thrown around to indicate the canidate is going to fundamentally "make things better".
Did Bush make things better? Did Clinton? How about Carter?
Posted By: Ivan from Oregon
Date: 2008-02-08 20:06:38
Logical, I agree with most of what you said, but you lost me when you commented on Roosevelt. He was so beholden to the PTB that in 1933, with all our gold from the Treasury disappearing to pay the interest on our usury-based credit money, that he stole the people's gold (litelarly) and made a FRN, based on nothing legal tender.
In 1934, to slow down the international redemption of FRN's to gold, he increased the "price" of gold to $35 an ounce. But he dealt the final blow to the Constitution after he stacked the Supreme Court, which, in 1936, ruled in the "Agricultural Adjustment Act" decision that the Congress can spend money on whatever it pleases, never mind what the Constitution says. This "blank check" on spending (never mind the enumerated powers in the Constitution) empowered the fascist government we have today.
The last really good President, IMHO was Grover Cleveland (a Democrat) who in the 1890's vetoed a $10,000 drought relief for Texas, stating: "It is not the function of government to relieve indivindual suffering - to do that would destroy the moral fiber of the nation." How right he was.
If Peace, Freedom, and Financial stability are outdated ideals then we are in deeeeep trouble. It is a true shame the republicans have gone so far off base. They have a true, honest, statesmen among them and they throw him away. Some Grand Ole Party they are.
As if it matters... This whole system has been bought. The bias in the media is blattant. Voting fraud is being reported, yet ignored. They want McCain vs. Hillary, so that Hillary can get an easy win with no one to argue. Everyone who follows the independent media, knows the real race is Obama vs. Ron Paul.
And you say there is no tyranny?
By what measure are we free people?
Of our original Bill of rights, very few are intact.
The "25 Best cities in the world" list is vacant of US cities, and has been for quite some time.
Our Federal Reserve, and Income tax are straight from the pages of the communist manifesto. (call me crazy all you want, but do so after you actually study this)
The police are violently out of control. There are many cases of death by excessive force that go unreported. (youtube "tazer")
The war on drugs is totally unconstitutional and amounts to institutionalized racism. Btw, How is prohibition possible in a free market?
We imprison more people per-capita than any other country on earth. (btw, for all you ignorant people that say "that's because our population is higher" you should really lookup the meaning of "per-capita" before saying that.)
You need a permit to use your own land, and using imminent domain the government can take your land against your will.
"In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -George Orwell
there is too much fluoride in the water ...
> The quote above, by my favorite Founding Father, is why I consider myself a Statist.
that is a little confusing ...
> There is no government, no man and no army, no power that walks the face of the world God gave us that can take away your rights ...
i have a right to travel, and i don't have that right when i am behind bars.
> radicalist Wahhabi Islam is a sect that cannot and will not be able to accept a modern world ...
and what business is that of yours?
> no matter how many terrorists we kill, more will keep coming ...
one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.
> responsible statism
ha? what an oxymoron. you need to study Bastiat's "The Law".
> Paul: a naive fool, with a platform based on a completedly outdated model for the world ...
oh yes, i am sure you are qualified to speak on that ...
> Paul: fails to grasp that such things (gold) are under the complete domination of huge cartels who would happily manipulate our money supply just as openly as the Federal Reserve ...
oh yeah? since when can they make gold out of thin air? someone is failing to grasp, but it isn't Paul.
> Paul: blind to the reality that a large portion of the country is dependant on the government, government contracts, or the pork ...
oh yeah? is that right? Paul is blind to these things? hmmm - i kinda figured that these things formed part of the basis of his policies.
> His idea that a free market would turn around the economy is in complete abayance of reality ...
oh yeah? and your reason is:
> globalized free markets have made our high standard of living our worst enemy.
since when are global markets "free markets" ??? since when is managed trade, free trade? since when are tariffs "free markets"? what even makes it legitimate to compare global trade with trade between the states? i am not seeing very much logic.
> live up to the ideals set forth by the founding fathers.
i don't think you know what they are.
> Your rights start with you, not with some fool prancing about asking you to vote for him.
if you vote, you are a US citizen, and HAVE ZERO RIGHTS - PERIOD! US citizens are federal citizens, and only have whatever privileges are granted to them by govt. you really don't know enough to write authoritively.
> We are in a conflict with another culture ...
what a bunch of nonsense - total garbage - unless you want to claim it is a choice. writers today are too clueless and ignorant to be writing.
> non-intervention will simply allow all of South America to fall to thugs like Chavez ...
if you studied more, you wouldn't have time to waste on your "global concerns", and your articles would be more worthwhile for the readers.
> If the public schools are crap, the answer isn't to take your children out -- it's to fix the public schools!
WRONG! the answer for a free people is not found in government.
> We don't have to worry about poverty? We don't have to worry about corruption? I worry about you, Chris.
you are the problem, not the solution. again, study Bastiat. you are just another form of those you rail against. you, the type that worries and knows what is best for others, and thinks it is OK to steal from some to give to others (while skimming off the top for yourself).
You have been around the Ron Paul movement too long, and it has infected you. I think you should retake the survey. You gave Paul the best rating of all the cadidates
The power to set things right is in our own hands. I agree, and that is a very very libertarian attitude, congratulations. I saw stuff in your article that I think you really believe, and things in it that I think you put in to get a reaction. I will only respond to the part that is the truth. No matter what your ideology is, you can make a difference, do it at the local level. it is easy to blame the school system for the The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America, but what about the parents who are too busy with their lives to be involved with their childrens education. Our Government is bought and paid for by the special interests because we were watching American Idol.
Freedom is a bitch, it isn't easy to get, harder to keep, and you have to be willing to accept responsibility for your actions, or non actions, or it means nothing. Governments have the power that we give them.
Logical Premise, I am confused that you call yourself a Statist and quote Hamilton, then go on to rant and rave about what is wrong with government and how individuals should change the system and get involved. You sound more like someone who thinks government does not have the answers to our problems (in which case you would be correct). Truth be told, it is government action, outside of the bounds of their appointed powers, that have created the major problems we face today. Yes, it is us as a people and as citizens who have failed; failed to keep our government in check, failed to stay educated on a broad range of philosophic approaches to organization, failed to view policy initiatives with a skeptical eye, failed to question ‘The Man’ to the end.
It is precisely government who is our biggest enemy, not in an absolute sense, but in the expansion of government beyond what the people have appointed the role of government to be. I take it from Hamilton’s quote in the beginning of your article that you have a low opinion of the Constitution. The Constitution is not one of these “old parchments or musty records”. It is a living, breathing contract, a charter for a government, granted by the people to be governed, with the ability to change with the times. We, and our government, have failed to follow and enforce this binding agreement, thus the failure of our government and the problems we face today.
As for Ron Paul, I think calling him naïve is, quite frankly, naïve. It is those who make broad sweeping statements of negativity about Dr. Paul, or any candidate for that matter, who fail to thoroughly educate themselves on the varying nuances of the issues, instead boiling them down to simplistic black and white. Hey, that’s how propaganda works! Maybe, instead of believing what Faux News says, oh I mean Fox News, you will go to Ron Paul’s website and read what he has to say first hand, after all, you said it is our duty to act. Keep the faith, for hope springs eternal.
NOBODY has control of the exchange rate. The Fed has a lot of power to influence it. The Fed is a private bank institution, NOT part of our federal Government. The president has no power over the Fed except to work with congress to FIRE it. Ron Paul is the only candidate with the cahunahs to do so. He understands the damage the Fed has done to our country. Do a little research, and Wake UP. http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul53.html
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