Topic: Presidential Campaign 2008
Ron Paul : the unanswered question What if the electorate chooses not to heed his words?by Logical Premise
(Statist)
Friday, February 1, 2008
Warning: the following is, of course, an opinion piece. When I state things as statements, they should be interpreted as statements of my personal opinion and not fact, unless I explicitly state them as facts.
I've been reading and writing on this site for a tiny jot of time, reading a LOT, writing a little. One thing has continued to puzzle me, which can somewhat be summed by a series of articles (here , here, and here). They are firey, they are impassioned. They seem to hold the view that the people don't have enough blasted sense to see the truth, that the media is beyond wrong, but corrupted, that if America doesn't see the reality of the Revolution that they are , well, sheep.
The underpinnings of the argument are due to the radical nature of the supporters of Libertarian causes. The political supports of Ron Paul appear to be three factors, embraced by three groups of people.
1. small goverment, by "sons of liberty" who conflate big government with big problems and big evils
2. sound money, by Austrian School armchair economists who think that the Fed basically uses inflation to make money and that central banks are bad, and our economy is bad due to the Fed
3. isolationism, by quasi-nativists who are not racists but who do not feel it is our job to police the world or get involved in forign affairs, and who instinctively distrust globalsism and it's initiatives such as the UN.
Some peoeple hold only one of these positions, others hold two or all three. Many of his supporters lean more towards the convservative than the liberal, and more towards old-line, low-tax, lassiez-faire, supply side conservatives than neocons.
The result of such an agglomeration of viewpoints is that they tend to view the world through a certain lens. They've been disatisfied for years with the direction of government bcause it shies away from these three axioms, and they think that the US would be better off, safer, more economically sound, etc if government and the people of the US embrace these things.
And they are perplexed, hurt, and confused that the people do NOT, emphatically and clearly.
The mainstream media has effectively silenced Dr. Paul, cast his supporters as fanatics, and ignored his achievements, his fundraising, his grassroots efforts, and his philosophy of government. The general public has demonstrated a complete apathy towards every single issue he has raised, and many on the internet and in society take vast glee in mocking not only Dr. Paul, but Libertarians and their ideals.
And, of course, this makes Libertarians even more frustrated and angry. They are excited that they have a canidate who fits their bill perfectly, excited at the grown of the Ron Paul focus group, delighted that they are getting new people to listen. They feel that for the first time in a long time there is a chance to change the fundamental nature of the Unites States, a chance to go back to the values they hold dear.
Libertarians -- the people don't want to listen to your message.
The three articles I referenced above are typical of the more clear-headed thinking and writing of Libertarians on this site. There are also poorly put together ramblings about the nature of liberty, excited declarations of a minor straw poll being won in a single county as if it were the general election, and histronic screaming over mistreatment of Dr. Paul by MSM figures. There is also a clear overtone of "wake up America" repeatedly, over and over, as if a matnra, strewn through every Libertarian article on the site I've read so far.
Libertarians -- your enthusiasm for Dr. Paul's message is blinding you to the unhappy reality.
In this country, well over 25% of the population is directly employed by the oversized government you want to reduce the size of. 15% are supported by that oversized government's entitlement programs. At least a third or more of the country is working in jobs and fields, or has employment as a result of, that oversized government and it's programs. The banking and financial centers of this country and, indeed, much of the world are predicated on the American School of economics that you consider a shell game. The most powerful unions in the country, of teachers, of transportation workers, of IT people, is given it's great sway due to the policies of that government you call bloated and corrupt.
Libertarians -- you fight against a system that supports the media that you call corrupted, that supports the businesses you purport to want to lift regulataory controls over.
You rail against the size of government, and in hearing your words, people who make their livelyhood from the government have more to lose than to gain. You offer no answers to how they will be employed. You preach a model of economics where people either make it on their own or fail, and these people have no reason to listen to your words.
You rail against the Federal Reserve and it's policies, but Big Business and Big Oil and money markets and hedge funds have grown to superpower status through manipulation of the Fed , and through it's policies and it's influence. Your solution might free them from regulations, but it would limit their power to control the economy and bribe the government and dominate the market. These people have no reason to listen to your words.
You rail against interventionism and against foreign entanglements the same way Charles Lindbergh did, with an eye on what's best for what you think America should be. But liberals feel America must protect the weak of the world, and act as it's policeman, and provide a beacon and a light on the hilltop for the spread of freedom, while neocons want an American Empire, spanning across the world and tied with our businesses, with every nation so leveraged in American debt that if you oppose us, our military will smash you and we will simply pay for the cost with more printed money. The people who believe in these stances will not listen to your calls for isolationism.
Libertarians -- you fight against the will of the people who are not blind but merely want changes different than what you offer.
You are preaching to a people who are not sheep, and who are not brainwashed, but simply do not value the things you do. I could very easily insult your intelligence the way you do the people of this country by saying you are brainwashed as well, but that accomplishes nothing, and solves nothing. Your canidate could engage the others in debate with all the airtime in the world and all the media attention, but the reality is he doesn't stand for what most of America does.
So, Libertarians, I have a question:
What does it mean if you preach a message no one wants to listen to?
It is not a rhetorical question. I honestly want to know. I very well could be TOTALLY, COMPLETELY off in my assesment of how this campaign has run and why we are now faced with the nightmare of a McCain presidency. I want to know what you think if the Message and the Messanger are turned out into the cold.
You blame the mainstream media for ignoring you, you blame the people for being sheep, you blame the voters for not caring, you blame the other candidates for have no answers you like,? you blame debate moderators for ignoring Dr. Paul, you blame conservatives for betraying conservative values...yet you never think to ask yourselves "why isn't this working?"
It isn't working because your message is falling up on closed ears. Your ideals would destroy the government that a lot of this country directly works for. It would destroy the entitlement programs, affirmative action, environmental programs, and socio-civic architecture that the people have come to identify as "governance". It would destroy political figures, it would destroy a two party system, it would destroy fiscal manipulation. It would elminate big business manipulating the stock market, and make every news source under a siege.
In effect, it would destroy the comfortable blanket America has pulled up around it's shoulders, it would destroy the self-image American's tend to have of us as the world's policeman, it would cast into darkness the aspirations of liberals and neoconservatives. It would, in effect, crush the potential of these people to have their versions of liberty and government made manifest.
It confuses me, therefore, who you are trying to reach, or why you think your message will resonate with people who have everything to lose and nothing to gain by supporting Dr. Paul. It is, perhaps, an eloquent message, one preached with passion, and a belief it will help, but it will never sway big business to give up a sure thing for a "maybe".
Is there a way for Libertarians to suceed in this election cycle? Its possible Anything is possible. But it is not possible to suceed in your goals without directly, openly, and blatantly opposing the will of the people of the US, without turning on the media and telling them what they have to say and do, without putting lots and lots of people out of work for no better reason than you feel government is too big when you have nothing to offer in it's place but words, noble ideas, and a stern pack of sayings about liberty and self-reliance.
And when it comes to pass that the people turn from your programs,and vote in congressmen and congresswomen to dismantle the programs Dr. Paul would put in place and replace that which he undoes, when the big businesses move to countries where they have no regulations AND can control the money supply, when the idea of liberty is replaced with the ideal of "liberty as seen by libertarians", will that be freedom?
You haven't convinced people. I've read Dr. Paul's site, almost all of it, and I see a lot of ideas, a lot of words, a lot of concepts and most of them are 180 out from where everyone else is looking at. So when you look around and the MSM ignores you, when people don't listen and don't care about your message, when you are sidelined and shut out and mocked, please remember it's the very liberty you embrace and love that makes this possible.
Perhaps the conclusions I have reached are totally wrong. Perhaps it is I who am blinded by what I want to see, and not you. Perhaps the results in the elections up to this point have been flukes and are a manifestation of the Ron Paul political base still gearing up. But there is a fundamental question about the nature of "the people's will" and I think it's important to answer it.
What does it mean if you preach a message no one wants to listen to?
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Posted By: Walt Thiessen
Date: 2008-02-01 18:29:55
Your message is fear, powerlessness, stagnation, and ultimately death. Our message is hope, possibilities, development, and the ability to grow. That summarizes the most important difference between libertarianism and statism.
I find it unlikely to the extreme that the vast majority of Americans even know what Ron Paul stands for.
There is no doubt that we are opposed by the powers that be. That's only fitting, since we oppose the powers that be.
In other words, my message is reality, and yours is a dream? Well, that's blunt enough, I guess.
When this farce of an election is over, and the people have yet another witless clown to stare at while the government is controlled by the legions of people getting things DONE in this country, and Ron Paul is back in Congress and life has returned to normal for four more years, you and I can debate the real meaning of what Libertarianism is all about.
As for now? If you people clear 20% of the vote in the national presdiential elections (that is, the Democrat vs. Republican, not the Republican Convention), sir, I , Henry Viley of Fort Worth , Texas, will write you a check for $1000.00 for the the maintenance and expansion of this site.
I admire your movement's passion. I deplore your inability to deal with the cold hard facts of life.
"In this country, well over 25% of the population is directly employed by the oversized government". If this were true, which it isn't, that would be around 75 MILLION people working for the Fed. The correct number is around 2 million or 1.5%.
let me ask you something, if you are totally right about something but everybody else around you seems to cover their ears in the face of the truth...do you stop talking?
would you keep voicing your opinion in the sake that someone might decide to listen and realize that you were right all along? that's what i would do, and i believe that is what most of paul's supporters are doing.
you see, most people feel this urge to share the truth with others whether or not that person believes they have been lied to in the first place. even though the truth teller may have nothing to gain from the other learning the truth, it's just a good feeling to help someone out.
now, all this stuff about Ron Paul supporters preaching to a deaf ear; WE have alot to lose if the American public fails to see the dangers looming over head.
Statist, you and I are on the verge of losing alot of our CIVIL liberties, the HR1955, PATRIOT ACT, and host of other bills that have been pushed by both democrats and republicans are a big reason i will not stop voicing my support for Ron Paul. i have gotten a few diehard democrats to look into paul and are really considering voting for him when it's our turn. these former democrats had seen the same things i saw in the horizon, they just didn't know somebody like Ron Paul was fighting his American blood pumping heart out to protect us. EVERYBODY, republican, democrat, libertarian, independent, etc., should be greatful Ron Paul is willing to stick his neck out and fight for our rights. he could have very easily retired froom congress and accepted the pension plan to live happliy ever after in a far away land. he chose not to. he chose to fight the good fight even though the very people he is trying to save are the ones hurting him the most.
All things are caused to happen as they are meant to happen, both good and evil. My wife does not even understand why I support Ron, why I change parties to be able to vote for him, why I caucused on his behalf, why I donate to his campaign.
Mans will is anything but free. We are all caused to do as we do. Our creator, created both good and evil, it is the razors edge, and is useful for its intended purpose. All is not as it always seems to be.
America will be the last empire to fall. Am I concerned that it is coming to an end, not in the least, I welcome it. Then and only then will all forms of government and religion be exposed for what they are.
Christ was tempted on the mount by Satan himself. Satan told Christ to bow down before him and he would give all kingdoms (governments) of the world to him. Satan could not offer these governments of the world, and their sheep, to Christ if he (Satan) did not posses them to offer them.
Joe, almost correct.
2.7 million people are directly employed by the US government. That does not include contractors, some limited part time personnel, national defense and international relations, postal service, and space research and technology employees.
A rough estimate is that between 15 and 20 million people are employeed by companies who work directly for the government in almost all aspects. Add in the (very rough) estamate of 35 to 60 million people working for companies that get more than 50% of their work from the government, and you have a rough total of anywhere from about 50 million people to over 85 million people. Again, these numbers are the high end values, I personally suspect they are far lower, but ...
LIBER TEA AND FREE DUMB PROP PER TEA AND JUST IS THE OWN LEE THINGS THAT OUR GOV URN MINT NEEDS TO PRO VIDE FOUR US SIT IH ZUHNS!
Good Article what if Ron Paul was the opposite of what his supporters wanted? What if he did veto every piece of legislation that came his way? Immagine HW BUSH'S "No New Taxes" Part 2. Damn!!!
Logical premise, there is much truth in what you stated and you have a good assessment of the Ron Paul movement.
You have also admitted that the US has become an oppressor of the world taking advantage of the world because of its situation and status as the lone super power.
A multi polar world is in the process of emerging and the US will need to get ready for that day, by becoming efficient and competitive in a level playing field in the near future, where dollar will compete with Euro, Yuan, Rupee and possibly gold, silver and other commodities as the instrument of international monetary reserves for Central Banks of the world. US brain power will also compete with brain powers from the rest of the world which will have as good or better Universities and Research labs in a few decades.
Todays sloppy ways will simply not cut it, as the US will have to compete with the rest of the world on every field, science, technology, economics, finance, politics and military. More than anyone else the young people who are wired to the internet are aware of this newly emerging world and are justifiable apprehensive of the direction of this country. Libertarianism is not the word of God nor is statism, or liberal or conservative for that matter. What is important is that the US proceeds in a direction that is in its own long term interest and the Ron Paul movement like any other group should be open to new ideas and to trial and error. I think Ron Paul movement and people associated with it sees it more clearly than the rest, although many see a little more conspiracy in everything than they should, but it is more due to inexperience than anything else.
I would argue that the Ron Paul movement has positive forces that will be good for the US in the long term, the Revolution will continue and transform the US political scene for decades to come. Because thriftyness, honesty and being humble is always better than being extravagant, dishonest and arrogant, specially when we are in the process of loosing the biggest stick in the neighborhood.
Generally, .. when you dream.. you are asleep. Libertarians, Wake up! The Republican Party is History. The Phoenix Party will rise from the ashes of the fiery death of the GOP.
Some say "If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it , ....does it still make a sound?"
But I say unto you " If a fire starts in a forest and no one is there to see it .. will it still burn down the forest?"
Verily, I say unto you, "Truth is Relative to your point of observation"
There are problems with the introduction of any idea to the the political arena. First is an idea must be visible. RP's message is very hard to see,the very notion of no IRS, no Feraral reserve, is impossible to most people. Check out money masters on google. This is very strange that our system is founded on spurious foundations. The very fact that we may have been lied to by our elected is a life change. These kinds of things don't happen easily. It is like divorce. The fact remains when you are in a bad situation you must either get out or submit. I believe that you believe we should submit.
Statist, you appear to be a cynic where many of us are concerned. We are not all self interested. Some of us, and I would venture to say most of us, do what we do out of love for our people and country. We just believe that it is in the best interest of our country and people to be as free as we can. Certain facts are undeniable. The Congress did violate the spirit and letter of the constitution in many ways and in so doing repudiated the wisdom of the founders. I am a depression era kid and while it may have been tough in ways to endure the situation brought on by the capricious behavior of the Federal Reserve it did not stop us. We just worked our way out of it in spite of the stupid New Deal policies and a miserable war. There was a spirit of self reliance that prevailed. And, that spirit is still here with some of us. Get rid of the unconstitutional income tax, reduce the size of government, (tell me truthfully, have you ever seen the government do anything right), bring in competing currecies, bring troops home from all over the world, institute the non-interventionist foreign policy being advocated by Dr. Paul (remember the Truman/Harriman doctrine of containment and Korea and Vietnam and now the Bush doctrine of pre-emptive war and Iraq?), reduce the onerous regulation, and then lay off about 2-million Federal government workers and I promise you the economic boom that will result will not only absorb the 2-million, but will be begging for more!
Did you notice when the wall fractured in Gaza and Israel that free trade broke out and people were prospering? Government is the problem! I would rather turn on a light than curse the darkness. Brighten up.
Although all three of the above premises do in fact describe me I think you are missing significant portions of his supporters in that argument. Particularly missing is the people who just want honest government, who want a candidate they can trust to :
Listen to the American people and not those who buy influence
Make a principled, and logically consistent stand, everytime
Show some fiscal responsibility in spending
Be a Statesman not a scumbag
Not be interested in foreign adventurism
Talks substance not generalities
....The list could go on for quite some time. But among other things (the difference between isolationism and non-interventionism for one) what you left unsaid in your statement was that the ONLY governmental cuts that are required to fulfill his platform is dismantiling our $1 Trillion overseas empire. He says he would eventually like to cut domestic spending while helping those who have become dependent on government largesse; but that is not a requirement to solve our financial and foreign policy problems. He knows that the domestic governmental steps would require a convincing of the American people, and it would not happen overnight or unopposed, that is not something he can dictate and shouldn't.
And by the way, yes I know the 6 points above could be interpreted as being related to or shades of your 3 points, but many supporters are not Libertarians in their ideology, only in their ideals. I have yet to see many staples of the libertarian arguments about why government isn't necessary, at least not more than a passing blow. I've barely seen the "power through the barrel of a gun" argument against government, or the "sheep and wolves" argument against pure democracy, or any of a number of other libertarian "teaching" explanations.
Many of those who identify themselves as libertarians are followers of Dr Paul's message, but the average rEVOLutionary is a just an every-day American who knows in his or her heart that something is wrong in our country. There is a reason that message draws people from every walk of life, both parties, and all creeds and colors. It is the "creation myth" if you will of this country, and for good or ill many, many, people believe in the inherent rightness of that message. Further the ability to talk substance is a reason why many young people are attracted to this message over the one that Obama is selling.
The truth is that most people are never getting to hear Dr. Paul's message. Most people are never getting a chance to give it a fair shake. Some like what little they've heard, but haven't takent the time to learn more...because their newtonian disinterest hasn't been exposed to enough energy to push them into being actively interested. Whether or not there is an entrenched conspiracy against that message, there is definitely a general unwillingness to stand their arguments against an unadulterated version of Dr. Paul's message and let the American people make a choice for themselves. Those who have a voice thanks to the establishment lines of power in this country recognize the power of that message, and they do NOT want it heard.
You may be correct in saying that the people of America don't want what Dr. Paul is selling. But that does not mean that they don't Need what he has to offer. Most everyone hates change. Changing jobs is ranked as one of the most stressful events in peoples lives. However, huge changes will come about either way we vote this year. This free-ride government ship is sinking. We spend far more than we earn in this country, from top (government) to bottom (you and I). Our economy is collapsing on itself and will only lead to foreclosures and bankruptcies if we don't act now. People will still be forced to switch jobs when our government stops paying for domestic programs and instead sends our money abroad to police the world. I have personally felt the effects of the war in Iraq in my PhD studies as an electronic materials engineer. I have had to switch projects three times in my 6 year career (which would have only taken 4 years if I had my original project) because funding gets pulled every time the war escalates. As our economy collapses, people will be out of jobs... only, there won't be any new jobs available, even in the private sector. Lowering interest rates so people dig themselves into even more debt, while the size of their second mortgage loans exceed the decreasing values of their homes and the value of the dollar plummets because of all the borrowed and printed money, is gong to kill our economy. People won't be able to afford "the comfortable blanket America has pulled up around it’s [sic] shoulders."
Under Paul's plan, more money would come home. Our defense budget (not to be confused with our Offense budget that keeps us in 130 nations and spends more than we have) would be increased to protect us at home. We would be able to pay for our domestic expenses. Our school systems would not collapse and teachers would not lose jobs. They would just work for private teaching institutions and have the opportunity for advancement and reasonable pay increases. Our postal system would not be eliminated, but may face some competition from private companies that would finally be allowed to use existing mailboxes for delivery. Social services would fall under state control and continue to help people. People may have to switch jobs, but at least they will have jobs to switch to. They may even be more prosperous in their new positions.
I have difficulty understanding why you idealize a government where an elite few can lobby and bribe and control what everyone else can and can't do. There is no freedom in that... None!
It is obvious that people are shrugging off more and more responsibility these days. Just look at the rampant tort law suits. (ie. Boy's family sues bicycle manufacturer for son's death while riding down steep tree-filled mountain at night because there wasn't a warning sticker about that on the bike) They always want someone to blame, someone to make decisions for them, someone to protect them from themselves. Perhaps it is time for America to grow up a little and stop relying on their bureaucratic parents for everything. We either need to move out on our own now, or get kicked out of the nest when they can't afford us any longer. I would rather make the steps in the right direction now than recover from economic failure later.
With freedom comes responsibility. Don't let the big-government machine tell you that you can’t handle it on your own. The people of America are strong, just a little out of shape.
Maybe we have all missed the point of Ron Paul message in the sence that 98% of what he proposes will not happen because he would be only ONE part of the goverment branches but force the other branches of our goverment to be more balanced in its aproch to policies and laws. And knowing his hard stance on excessive spending civil rights ect. Congress and Courts will have to take that into account with what they do to get laws passed without his veto of them and he will have to compromise as well. The last 7 years we have went to far one way and gave up to much of our freedoms, spending and the war on terror with no balanced approch to deal with issues befor us in todays world. And bring this country back to the middle of the road that we all can live with so this country can move forward and the world as well in peace
Pier Johnson: are you address me, or the Statist who responded to the article? If him, meh, ad hominem.
If you're addressing me, I have a name, it's Henry Viley of Fort Worth , TX. I didn't spend 8 years in the military, bleeding in Desert Storm, or the next 5 building a business with my own hands, to have some anonymous dreamer accuse me of anything at all.
Let me say this to everyone who thinks that way: people who disagree with you are not sheep. People who disagree with you are people. When you dismiss ideas out of hand, you are merely being human. When you rant about the land your forefathers founded (stole), about the achievements you made (with slave labor and by stealing it from Mexico and by abusing Chinese rail workers and treating the poor working class like crap), and you rant on about your right to be free men and how you will "fight the government", you make yourself to look like fools.
The government doesn't need to fight you. It doesn't care about you becuase you are a pack of powerless clowns, unable to change anything in society except which false prophet inspires you. The world goes on into the future, reaching into the past for answers doens't fix a thing.
Every other responder here had something to say, something either profound, or challenging, or respectful, or even stating they thought I was wrong. But you, Mr. Johnson, are a troll. And the sad part about your Revolution is that for every Wood, for every Walt, for every Erik or AK , for every Dr. Paul, there is a person who simply wants things to be different so he can tell himself he matters.
In the scope of the universe, you are a speck of lint in the middle of the Sahara. Trying to demand that you matter is not only pointless but pathetic. I spend my time trying to do God's will, live my life happily, and get through the day focusing on how I can be a better human being. If the only thing you can do when your philosophy is challenged is bellow like a beast, your party is even more intellectually challenged than I thought.
Either respond logically, sir, or don't bother wasting people's time.
I took note of your Military service and commend you for it. I have worked for our Military since 1957 and have the utmost respect for our guys, even the officers. :) I would point out that all indications are that if the election was restricted to our men and women in uniform Dr. Paul would win hands down.
The troops always seem to perform their tactical mission despite having to put up with bureaucratic incompetence at home.
With your permission I would like to address our differences by asking a question to see if we analyze it the same way. When the children of Israel were brought out of Egypt and into the wilderness they sent out spies to see about conquering the promised land. All but Joshua and Caleb were fearful about their prospects of success. So at the word of the Lord every man from 20 years and up died in the wilderness save Joshua and Caleb. However, those raised in the wilderness under the age of 20 simply went over and conquered the promised land. They were the same people. What do you think accounted for the difference?
If people do not want to hear Ron Paul's message, then how is it that he has been elected to the US Congress for 10 terms? How is that he continues to garner new supporters from parties accross the board? Why so many new donations? Some people are listening.
We, however, really appreciate the points that you submit, as well those of the respondents. It helps us to question and fomulate our own opinions. You, and the readers who have responded, help to provide substance rather than generalization.
The Main Stream Media is responsible for an all time low in debate quality. The CNN Republican debate was a joke - it only provided "he said, she said, you said", "pot stirring" sensationalism. It was MSM's "Jerry Spinger", horse race, popularity contest, type show. The candidates should be asked to promote their own specific ideas and not let the likes of Anderson Cooper draw them into personal attacks and long winded generalizations.
Statist, people are listening. You may be right that people may not want to hear Ron Paul's message (there are many tax lawyers and accountants who do not), but there may be some merit in exploring, and re-visiting, some of the basic principles that he suggests. Your respondents bring up some great possibilities. I think that he realizes that there is only so much that he can do, but raising the questions and awareness is commendable in itself. I think that some of the other candidates (on both sides) may even be picking up on some of his ideas.
Yes the ideas are 180 degrees out of the main stream...And if we continue in the mainstream ways we will have an inflation rate that will rival Germanies in Hitlers era...Maybe you should pay a little more attention to David Walker and his message! The borrower is slave to the lender! King Solomon
The same people screeming and yelling for candidate a,b,c,d,e will be the same group bitching and moaning when they need to get an injection of a real ID microchip and turn in their dollars for yet another fraud of a currency called the Amero. They can contemplate this all while standing in a soup line somewhere as in 1929. Note that according to the FED's own web site, banks reserve assets on hand were a negative number (around <$8B>) in Jan 2008, the first time ever. This was after the FED dumped $60B into the economy and lowered rates. Attention sheeple, time to wake up! Ron Paul 2008!
It is my humblest opinion that I will only be adding to the problem rather than to the solution were I to just shut up and not support someone I believe in. A lot of Ron Paul supporters and libertarians are too enthusiastic for their own good and are blind to the reality, but I would say the opposite for myself. I know the reality of America's opinion of my beliefs. That doesn't make me want to stop fighting for them, though. Once I have an opinion that I am unwilling to fight for and share then that opinion is not worth having.
I'm not asking everybody to agree with me. The libertarian movement isn't overly blind to reality, either. Confidence and bullheadedness should not be mistaken for ignorance. We truly believe in our cause, and anybody not willing to fight for their beliefs is a puppet of the system. I refuse to support candidates that talk from their asses. I refuse to support a government that is working to make it that people don't have to support its agenda in order to be successful in that agenda.
I don't expect to be heard, but I'll be damned if I don't give it my all.
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