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The Nolan Chart Survey and Anti-Centrist Bias

The Indepublicrat self-identifies as a centrist, and so was pleased when the Nolan Chart's short survey resulted in a star roughly centered in the diagram's amusingly-colored "gray area." However, as a centrist, the Indepublicrat must protest an inherent bias in the survey.
by The Indepublicrat
(centrist)
Tuesday, January 1, 2008

The Indepublicrat self-identifies as a Centrist, and so was pleased when the Nolan Chart's short survey resulted in a star roughly centered in the diagram's amusingly-colored "gray area." However, as a Centrist, the Indepublicrat must protest an inherent bias in the survey.

Each question attempts (with varying success) to break down a complex issue into four "ideologically pure" viewpoints: Liberal, Conservative, Libertarian, and Statist. Since a moderate, neutral, or centrist position is not presented, survey takers are forced to select the least objectionable extreme, pulling them toward one or another of the compass points. Hence, a Centrist who leans slightly toward the left or right would be artificially propelled in that direction by the cumulative effect of several questions.

The Indepublicrat humbly suggests the following hastily-drafted additions that may not reflect a scientific understanding of "Centralism" but at least offer a middle-ground alertnative to the current answers:

[02 Jan 2008 update: Comments on this entry have been hugely helpful to me in understanding that being a "Centrist" is more of a process than a destination.  The process is one of understanding, incorporating, and attempting to find common ground among disparate positions.  The Indepublicrat maintains that this process is better than picking an ideology and becoming entrenched in it, although it does mean that no identifiable "Centrist position" may exist on a given issue because different Centrists will apply their own experiences and priorities to end up in different places.

The positions described below, originally labeled as proposed Centrist alternatives to those in the survey, should instead be read as the positions of one particular Centrist who is looking to promote debate.

The Indepublicrat is still new to political blogging, so thanks you for your patience!]

1. Speech, Assembly, Press, Internet, and Property Rights

2. Guns

3. Homosexual Marriage

4. Foreign Policy

5. National ID Card

6. Corporate Welfare

7. Trade and Money

8. Social Security

9. Health Care

10. Taxes, Spending, and the National Debt

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Posted By: Jill
Date: 2008-01-01 18:05:43

I just loved this article because i thought that it was very, very touching! it is the best thing that has ever happened to me in my whole entire life!!!!!!!!!!! :)

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Posted By: Jim ODonnell
Date: 2008-01-01 18:21:20

A centrist is like an animal who straddles the yellow line in the center of the road for safety.

They usually end up as road kill.

Jim ODonnell 

 

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Posted By: The Indepublicrat
Date: 2008-01-01 18:36:57

That's how the saying goes, but only because it's more pithy than saying that a Centrist is a person who considers multiple viewpoints and attempts to synthesize them into a balanced position. :-)

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Posted By: DigitalBob
Date: 2008-01-01 21:19:05

An optimist says we live in the best of all worlds.  A pessimist says he's afraid it's true.

I'm sure I'll take the test again in time.  I kind of like where it puts me now.  I thought I was fiscally conservative, socially liberal, see a need for government for those things that citizens cannot provide for themselves, but would rather do those things myself.

The Nolan Chart provides a two-dimension representation, which is a refreshing advance over the left-right, liberal-conservative conventional thinking.  I think I need three or four dimensions!

I'm glad you're at least providing samples of alternate questions.  Most gripers to date haven't taken it that far.

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Posted By: Jahfre Fire Eater
Date: 2008-01-02 00:22:22

The Nolan Chart / Quiz is intended to show unsuspecting participants that they are more libertarian than they may have thought.  It isn't meant to be objective.

A much more informative survey is The Political Compass.  Your overall results will not change much but since this survey has many more questions and less-leading choices, you will probably feel more satisfied with this assessment of your view point. 

My wife and I each took the Political Compass survey separately then compared notes, then we took it together and debated the answers where we disagreed until we could settle on an answer.  If nothing else, it is great practice for defending the consistency of your rationale.  

I don't understand what a Centrist is, honestly.  It seems that taking a position may result in your having to defend it.  The basis for your defense would tend to pull you into one corner of the Nolan Chart or the other...unless you have completely unique rational for each position you take.  So I'm wondering if being a Centrist requires constant vigilance against your having strong, defensible reasons for your positions.  I look forward to reading your rationale for various positions you may take...if you actually take positions...I really have no idea what to expect.  I don't know any centrists, personally.

Regards,

Jahfre Fire Eater 

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Posted By: Ben Rushing
Date: 2008-01-02 02:43:18

There is way too many ways to be a centrist. Centrist are often people who have thier own views on each issue, but don't support total tyranny. While at the same time cannot accept Libertaian thought. I have always seen Centrists as the product of pure democracy, waiting for a majority to form on an issue without taking the time to understand it, nor do they have a firm stance on anything, so they go with the majority. Centrism is moderate Statism, it is a combination of some of the government action of the left and right, but it keeps itself safe enough to oppose tyranny. This is what most politicians choose to be, because they need the popular vote. This is why the founding fathers opposed pure democracy in favor of a representative republic. Pure democracy leads to the tyranny of the majority without the garauntee of freedom. This is why it was not a surprise to see Hamas win an election in the West Bank. Centrism can not garauntee personal and economic freedom, because it is like the wind, always changing. Centrism encoumpases the Democratic and Republican party, it is not definite nor accurate. Centrists oftern times will dissagree with each other on the matter of how, how much, and when certain actions are acceptable or needed. As far as foreign policy and military action are concerned, this is like morality, it is not something that the Nolan Chart can define. It is possible to be a total interventionist and a libertarian just as much as it is possible to be a total non-interventionist and a Libertarian. The use of force is not based on political principles at all. So foriegn policy should not be thought of as distictly Conservative, Liberal, Centrist, Libertarian, or Statist. We need a seperate chart for this.

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Posted By: boyd
Date: 2008-01-02 09:12:23

"Centrist: The Second Amendment was written in an era of flintlock muskets by people who would have been appalled by the easy accessibility of assault rifles, rocket-propelled grenades, improvised explosive devices, and suicide vests. With dirty bombs and suitcase nukes around the corner, we should revisit this issue while there's still time to take a big step back from the brink of destruction."

People would have been apalled at the easy availability of assault rifles? Read some history- the flintlock was a huge evolution over the matchlock and all the weapons before it and it's main feature was increased rate of fire. The colonialists weren't afraid of the citizens having arms at hand, they went to war -to- -gaurantee- it. Harken back to high school, the phrase "shot heard round the world" should ring a faint bell. That was when the redcoats attempted to steal a -citizen- armory.

Your comment about dirty bombs and suicide belts is just the most base pandering as the second amendment does not apply to either.

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Posted By: Jim Gallagher
Date: 2008-01-02 10:16:26

I'm sorry, your "centrist " position on guns leads me to beleive the term is being misused. Your whole position is based on "was written . . . by people . . . that would be appalled" and then you list several WMD's which have nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment. Using your logic we could revisit the scope of the 1st Amendment to disallow cell phones, Internet, TV, and any other communication device not available during the written of the Constitution. Your lack of understanding of why the 2nd Amendment was placed in the Bill of Rights puts you firmly in the "liberal/statist" area of your chart.

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Posted By: Jill
Date: 2008-01-02 15:02:53

i am toched because i am the one who started this whole conversation, and i will be writing a lot to this site! i love all.

 from the best writer here, and speller! your favorite person in the whole wide world, the one and only, your bff and your daughter for some, 

              JILL

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Posted By: The Indepublicrat
Date: 2008-01-02 17:14:16

These comments have been hugely helpful to me in understanding that being a "Centrist" is more of a process than a destination.  The process is one of understanding, incorporating, and attempting to find common ground among disparate positions.  I maintain that this is far more worthwhile than picking an ideology and becoming entrenched in it, although it does make it difficult to find a "Centrist position" on many issues because different people will end up in different places.

 The Indepublicrat makes no apologies if he or she reaches a position that veers into one or another area--consider these proposed positions to be a starting point open for debate.

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Posted By: Paul
Date: 2008-01-10 06:07:56

Looking at the chart one has to be struck by the labeling bias.  The use of conventional terms in an unconventional chart is limiting people full discovery of the political process.

 

One quick fix would be to use the term "socialist" instead of "Centrist" in the way that "We the People" is a socialist declaration and that the Constitution and Citizenship impart both duties and rights to its bearers.

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Posted By: Jamie
Date: 2008-07-21 02:14:26

I particularly enjoyed this article and found the comments to be amusing.

 

 

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Posted By: sailormnop
Date: 2008-11-01 21:41:02

Every one of your responses places you in the statist corner of the chart. The answer for every situation is some amount of government action and force used against the people. Unfortunately, there's only one thing government does well: Make more government. Any government - even the "limited" government that the founders gave us - will inevitably grow. As Ronald Reagan said, "Government is not the solution; government is the problem!" He didn't realize how right he was.

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Posted By: gene
Date: 2008-12-13 10:22:36

good article! I agree with the health care question and your viewpoint, there is no good answer in the survey. and I agree with Jahfre's comment that the survey is biased to show that we all have Libertarian tendencies[we value personal freedom], this is not a bad thing. What is bad is the media trying to convince us that we all tend to agree with the "bush doctrine" or that the hundred billion dollar bailouts are good for us!

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Posted By: Gen
Date: 2009-03-08 19:16:38

I noticed the same and kept frowning when I ended up Libertarian.  While I do agree with most of what Dr. Paul says, I've never really identified as a Libertarian. I've always been fairly moderate in my political views.

Every day, I have to wonder why  "life, liberty, & the pursuit of happiness" have become conservative concepts.  How do following the constitution and the path of our Founding Fathers link you to Libertarian or Conservative or Republican?  Furthermore, how can people link it to cold-hearted, racist, sexist, or many other terms slung against those supporting the Constitution in lieu of the current administrations slaughter of it?

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Posted By: Drew
Date: 2009-06-03 18:47:46

Folks seem to be poop'in on the Centrist.  Do all conservatives(or liberals, statists or libertarians for that matter) fit into the same mold?  I think not.  If one applied that logic in reverse, one could convincingly argue that all who fit neatly into a particular ideology are sicafants to that ideology. This coming from a guy who just found out he's at the very pointy corner a certain ideology, according to said quiz.

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