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Posted By: David S
Date: 2009-05-01 15:15:15
"Is it time to end the partisan Party system and just elect those we feel will do the best job?"
I would say that's long overdue. But unfortunately the American people will only elect Ds or Rs and maybe the occasional socialist.
Posted By: Jake, the Champion of the Constitution
Date: 2009-05-01 17:39:00
Dear Raven -
My sentiments exactly. I had been registered with the Republican party, and wasn't tempted to change in '08 with RP running, but when I had to make a decision myself?
Obviously I understand why voters would belong to either party, but as a candidate I couldnt live with myself as a candidate for the failed Duopoly!
Jake
Posted By: Jahfre Fire Eater
Date: 2009-05-01 23:43:24
Hi Raven West,
I agree with the sentiment. The reality is that we have a two party system. If you could wave a magic wand to end it, without changing the constitution it will return in the first election cycle. The constitution defines the rules of the game; political parties form to increase the odds of control of the government . The two-party system is a naturally occuring pattern based on the rules in the Constitution for how our elections will operate.
Political power and results cannot be created with a magic wand or by an occasional self-created martyr on a pedestal of principle. The only way to achieve political results is through coalition building. Our election rules create the necessity for coalitions to be formed prior to an election, thus, two powerful parties are inevitable. Israel's election rules necessitate coalition forming after an election so a multitude of sub-parties is the natural power play in their politics.
There are certainly pros and cons of each system. I'll leave that debate to the academic navel-gazers.
Our reality is that two dominant parties exist and will continue to exist. There isn't going to be a mass moment of unity to disband them spontaneously. Political parties are powerful and dangerous tools that can shape the future of mankind, for good or for bad. It is naive to think that no one will use these tools just because some people get disgusted and walk away.
In US politics there are only two choices,:
1. Fight to control what kinds of candidates are produced by a political party
or
2. Leave that job to your enemies.
Discussion of other considerations is just self-marginalizing rationalization aimed at avoiding the necessary work and responsibilities associated with aligning ones actions with their stated goals. Grandstanding. Ego-stroking. Whatever the right word is, it has nothing to do with pursuing results.
Ron Paul stands as the ultimate role model. His being a Republican is the MOST important aspect of anything Ron Paul symbolizes yet still many of his fans refuse to give up ego-stroking self-marginalization and take up Dr. Paul's example. To me that is a strong indication that we are nowhere near the kind of Revolution the die hard Paul fans think they are creating. It is a sad, sad illusion. So much potential, so little understanding of the relationship between actions and consequences.
-Jahfre Fire Eater
Posted By: Robin Westmiller
Date: 2009-05-02 11:29:59
" The constitution defines the rules of the game;:"In fact, the Constitution does not even mention political parties. Political parties just happened; and, even after 22 amendments, political parties remained outside the purview of our Constitution.However, Thomas Jefferson understood that Politics naturally divides people when he stated "Men by their constitutions are naturally divided into two parties: 1. Those who fear and distrust the people, and wish to draw all powers from them into the hands of the higher classes. 2. Those who identify themselves with the people, have confidence in them, cherish and consider them as the most honest and safe, although not the most wise depositary of the public interests. In every country these two parties exist, and in every one where they are free to think, speak, and write, they will declare themselves. Call them, therefore, Liberals and Serviles, Jacobins and Ultras, Whigs and Tories, Republicans and Federalists, Aristocrats and Democrats, or by whatever name you please, they are the same parties still and pursue the same object.